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Just a quick side note - I do not fanatically follow the goings on of the star wars universe so please do not quote me...

To me 'Balance to the Force' means a preportion - two Sith no more no less and since the dark side is stronger a need for more jedi that is the Balance.

Anikans move to join the Emperor is, in my opinion, his original destiny being fullfilled and Bringing Balance to the Force, complete when he slaughters the remaining Jedi...

Anikan, now known as Darth Vader is required to Balance the force again when yoda dies... that being to destory the Emperor and finally leaving only one trained Jedi, his son Luke...

Once more Jedi would arise the need for 'Balance to the Force' would see the rise of a new Sith Lord...

Does this make sense - does in my mind :P

footnote - not sure what forum to post this topic in and also didin't search the forums for a similar topic cause my mouse is recharging

Nope, you're wrong. Balance in this context is more akin to harmony. There will be Balance in the force when the last Sith is destroyed.

Serious answer....


The Sith are like parasites. They are anathema to the force, and their corruption is what unbalances it in the first place.


The destruction of the Sith brings the force back into harmony and fulfills the prophecy.


Smart ass question....

What sort of new math did you take to think that only one force user equals a balanced equation?

Since the dark side is stronger just the potential is enough to balance out one light jedi.

This is not supposed to be fact or based on years of research - just some ramblings of my mind this morning because I didn't buy into the idea that having no sith around would bring balance to the Force. The one jedi theory is just there to keep my weak story together - got duct tape ??

I never could make heads or tails out of balancing the Force, so I never gave it much thought over the years. Then I read the New Jedi Order book 'Traitor'. That has a much different philosophy regarding the Force, the Good Side and the Dark Side and I have to wonder if that take on the Force isn't the correct one to have now that the Force is balanced.

Basically, the book suggests that in the post-Palpatine/post-Vader era of using the Force, you don't give in to the Dark Side so much as you unleash your personal Dark Side. It becomes more about the individual and the choices he/she makes rather than a good side and a bad side waging war between each other, in a sense.

Anyway...

I'm liking this theory best so far.

I was under the impression you were joking too.

I thought the use of seriously was clue enough.

That was the best book in the entire NJO deal in my opinion.

The series was very flawed. An editorial change required that Jacen Solo become The One (in the Jedi sense). Originally it was supposed to be Anakin Solo in that position; the whiny Jacen would've been dead. The official cover story on this is that Del Rey does acknowledge that editorial change, but they insist that it was finalized before the first book in the series was even written... which I don't buy for one minute because everything that happens to Anakin (up to a certain point) suggests a very special future for him.

As for which book was the best, Traitor was good as were most of the hard covers. The other paperbacks were hit and miss. Some were good, some were not. Lazy writing did a lot of harm too.

Anyway...

I think it means like equal jedi to sith and peace in the force
Like in the times Galatic Cival War only few jedis and sith pretty balanced and Anakin is main reason that happened so too me he did bring balance to the force

You'd be wrong.

GL himself hs said that the presence of the Sith is what throws the force out of balance.

I agree with Ziggy; Anakin brings balance to the Force by destroying the Sith - Sidious, and himself/Vader in the process. The history of the Sith is ended, no more masters or apprentices, that line is broken; no one passes on that direct knowledge.

It seems to me, on a side note, like the PT era Jedi need "balance" too, i.e. arrogance, too much detachment, not enough compassion, or enough of Qui-Gonn's "living force." In that light, the fall of the Jedi and the Republic is in some way a necessary destiny, which Anakin helps bring about, even though the immediate result is wild imbalance i.e. Sith control of the galaxy. But Yoda and Obi-Wan live to pass on new lessons to Luke, who brings Anakin back from the other side to destroy the Sith.

Of course in theory the Force could go out of balance again later or something, but I'm not a fan of post-ROTJ EU so, it doesn't interest me.

i thought for the longest time that balance was 2 against 2. it made sense. thousands of jedi and only 2 sith. but GL has gone on to explain that the revelation of the sith unbalances the force. but i also thought growing up that "the emperor knew as i did that if anakin were to have any offspring, they would be a threat to him." i thought that meant that the twins were a threat to vader. but as i got older i realized they were a threat to palpatine.

I think it is the living force and the unifying force. The balance between the two is out of whack. Every jedi is focusing on the unifying force, looking to the future. They all spend so much time relying on the future that when the NOW happens, they are taken apart because the dark side clouds the future. Anakin destroying the emperor, is not about a future PROPHECY, but a decision made in the MOMENT, because he could decide whether Luke would live or not. So, he fulfills the prophecy (unifying force) but does not do it because he believes it is his destiny (living force) therefore, the Jedi can come back, and use both unifying and living (balance) from the faults of the old republic, a more watered down take on the overall moral of the story, the mistakes of the father, and the son recognizing them and taking a better path.

Yeah, the exact definition of "balance" is unclear. My take on it is that by the time of AOTC and ROTS, the Sith clearly have the upper hand. The Jedi's ability to use the Force has been weakening as Sidious becomes more powerful than Yoda or the rest. Along comes young Skywalker, perhaps the post powerful Force senstive ever, who can equal Sidious (at least until OWK slices him into cold cuts and then DV is less powerful). Sidious, of course, senses what the Jedi don't, and lures Anakin over to his side, throwing the Force way off balance because instead of one powerful good being and another powerful bad being striking a balance, there are two baddies.

When Anakin kills the emperor and dies himself the balance is restored. There clearly must be other Force sensitives throughout the galaxy, some good, some bad. Whether untrained people can sense it or not, The Force is everywhere (remember the ESB cave, which Yoda said is powerful with the Dark Side. It's just a cave, but the Force is there).

We can assume Luke revives the Jedi religion, but you can also assume out there somewhere the Sith still lurk too.

You could also look at it that the Force, like nature, itself knows when it is out of balance, hence the creation of Anakin by the midiclorians to return the balance.

So perhaps you could say that Sidious, who comes before Anakin, is the one who unbalances the Force and Anakin rebalances it.

Or you could say that we're an awful lot of geeks.

After I saw Ep.I the first time I thought that if I were Yoda or Mace at the first mention of that "he's the one who is to bring balance to the force" crap I would have leaped up and chopped Anakin's head off right there and then. How could "the chosen one" showing up be a good thing for the Jedi Order? The only thing I would think would be "boy, this kid must have a lot of dark side in him to bring balance to the force".