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Post Posted: September 6th 2011 1:08 pm
 
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Select shots of Yoda.
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Post Posted: September 6th 2011 1:20 pm
 
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"They started by telling Lucas that they loved him/the movies/grew up watching them. Then they very politely asked why he wouldn’t make the original versions of the movies available on DVD/Blu-Ray. They stressed that they don’t mind the retroactive edits (doubtful, but they were being nice), they just wanted good digital copies of the original cuts, too.

Lucas’s response?: An eyeroll and a huffy, “Grow up. These are my movies, not yours."



I really think this happened. Episode I is a HUGE improvement in overall quality but, not digging the freaky looking yoda in this naboo shot.


Post Posted: September 7th 2011 1:20 am
 
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unlikely to have happened, he has always been pretty good in those moments from own and friends experience


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Wait. People are getting TPM? Why?


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Because it's a beautiful-looking travelogue. :)

Not that I'm getting this set any time soon, but TPM works alot better when you think of it like that rather than as an actual movie that's supposed to have drama, emotions and interesting characters. :mrgreen:


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I can't and will never watch that piece of shit again.


Post Posted: September 7th 2011 5:32 am
 
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User897 wrote:
I can't and will never watch that piece of shit again.


:roll: Try watching it in context with the entire series, like you know, the first episode of a larger story. I agree that by itself it's not as good of a self-standing installment, but it's just the Overture to the Space Opera. I saw bits of it again on Spike over the weekend, and thought wow, this is not bad at all. Some clunky moments, but also some spectacular scenes.

Sort of like ROTJ, which for me has always worked just as a wrap-up to the saga, not as a good stand-alone chapter. But to completely toss it aside like it's the worst thing since Santa Claus Conquers the Martians, and to refuse to ever give it another look just seems a tad extreme to me.


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Treating one of the most awful wastes in cinema history as if it doesn't exist is not extreme at all. It's quite easy.


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TPM may not be perfect but it's just as worthy of an addition as ROTJ, a film whose cinematography looks like it was made for TV. Also Jar Jar is not as bad as Harrison "can't wait for this to be over" Ford.


Post Posted: September 7th 2011 9:27 am
 
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User897 wrote:
Treating one of the most awful wastes in cinema history as if it doesn't exist is not extreme at all. It's quite easy.


Being a tad more open minded is easier, I promise.


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I dunno' if I'd call TPM "one of the most awful wastes in cinema history". But I have seen some really, really bad movies over the years. As a fan, I was sort of disapointed walking out of the theatre, but it's grown on me over time.

I don't even hate Jar-Jar that much anymore. For my money, AOTC is much more of an overall snore. But even that doesn't make my 'hated it' list. All of the prequel films, to me, have some 'uncomfortable' moments. And every one of them is superior to the best rom/com or bad action movie made in the last twenty years.

There are a lot of "awful wastes in cinema history", I don't believe it's fitting to put any of the SW films into that category. I say that not having seen the 'vandalized' versions yet, however :monocle:

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and in news in some way relevant to this thread, check out the sample of the TMP ending Bearvomit posted in the other thread - I think Sam Jackson has replaced generic black jedi guy in the celebration.


How is referring to a topic in another thread relevant to this thread? I'm just trying to follow the logic here. :funkymrblonde:


Post Posted: September 7th 2011 10:13 am
 
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How is referring to a topic in another thread relevant to this thread? I'm just trying to follow the logic here.

Well the logic now is in the relevant thread.

And here is the logic flow for some of the thread splits and mergers:

• Star Wars 1999-2005 BluRay 1080p • DTSES x264-CHD
- Scene Info & Releases

• Star Wars 1999-2005 BluRay 1080p • IMAGES & VIDEO
- Images & Video

• Star Wars 1999-2005 BluRay 1080p • CHANGES
- Death threats & Acts of Terrorism over the changes


Post Posted: September 7th 2011 10:21 am
 
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Death threats and Acts of Terrorism over the changes


That seems to already be happening on Amazon's half-assed "review" page. :funkyheadbutt:


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TroyObliX wrote:
How is reffering to a topic in another thread relevant to this thread? I'm just trying to follow the logic here.


Weeeelllll...since you asked, as this is a topic discussing video and stills from the blu ray releases, I felt that discussing a posted video sample was slightly more relevent than "WAH! I'M POOR AND GOING BANKRUPT (but I'm still buying a hundred dollar blu-ray set), THEREFORE EVERYONE SHOULD STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS RELEASE, BECAUSE THERE'S WORSE THING IN THE WORLD!


In a - you know - thread thread talking about the release. But honestly I've been flipping back and forth between the changes and video threads, and DP has been pretty actively moving stuff around to keep it all organized in some way, so if I fucked up where I posted then, eh, :roll: whatareyagonnado?


Post Posted: September 7th 2011 2:29 pm
 
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User897 wrote:
one of the most awful wastes in cinema history


That's just your opinion. Not a fact.


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Meanwhile, in a change apparently NOT made: OT.com people are reporting no Qui-Gon in RotS.

Retarded if they recorded the dialogue for the deleted scene. That's the one fucking change I would have liked to see, and it requires the absolute minimum effort., just track in Liam Neeson. As it is they just left the Yoda scene in, and it's painfully obvious that something else was supposed to be happening.

Without any idea of what the hell he's doing (is he sleepy?) the shot just sits there, totally inert.


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Not necessarily. While I would like to see Liam Neeson's voice in RotS, I think it's fairly obvious that Yoda was meditating in that scene.


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Yoda in AOTC looks like crap some shots.

I feel this way about Yoda in the prequels completely, but it seems like everyone except for the OT "purists" disagrees with me. I still remember the first time I saw Episode II. That first closeup shot of the computer animated Yoda is cringe-inducing.

I'm watching Phantom and it never looks like the battle droids are ever really making contact with whatever they're standing on.

Was the scene of the Emperor's hologram when he introduces Darth Maul changed? I can see more facial details and his eyes.


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bearvomit wrote:
Yoda in AOTC looks like crap some shots.

ETAndElliot4Ever wrote:
I feel this way about Yoda in the prequels completely, but it seems like everyone except for the OT "purists" disagrees with me. I still remember the first time I saw Episode II. That first closeup shot of the computer animated Yoda is cringe-inducing.

I'm watching Phantom and it never looks like the battle droids are ever really making contact with whatever they're standing on.

Was the scene of the Emperor's hologram when he introduces Darth Maul changed? I can see more facial details and his eyes.


I feel this way about the ESB/ROTJ muppet. To me every time it moves it's so obvious that it's a puppet. Sure, Frank Oz is terrific but its less believable than the CG Yoda IMO.


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I feel this way about the ESB/ROTJ muppet. To me every time it moves it's so obvious that it's a puppet. Sure, Frank Oz is terrific but its less believable than the CG Yoda IMO.


Sorry for the off-topic, but your 'joined date' is most impressive. :)


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Episode II CG Yoda needs to be fixed in some shots for sure. The animation team was still finding their way in 2002.

I think the real issue here is how PT Yoda - the character - was treated. If he isn't as active as he was in the PT, you can probably get away with a puppet (not TPM one though). The fact that Lucas had him jump around and crawl through pipes and fight people makes that impossible.

I've evolved from a PT defender to a SW integrity officer (which usually means OT purist), but I think Lucas made the right decision to go CGI for Yoda.

Yoda would have been far too boring (and perhaps useless) a character if he wasn't doing the things he had to do in ROTS. There had to be a confrontation with the Emperor and there's no way in holy hell that could have been done with a practical puppet. Not to mention the fact that the ROTS Yoda looks incredible 95% of the time.


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foxbatkllr wrote:
I feel this way about the ESB/ROTJ muppet. To me every time it moves it's so obvious that it's a puppet. Sure, Frank Oz is terrific but its less believable than the CG Yoda IMO.


But that's the thing - the puppet is real, even if a puppet, the CG Yoda is not real at all.

Actually Frank Oz keeps out of sight, so it's like a kickass living puppet interacting with Luke! The way all movie creatures should be done! ;)


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But that's the thing - the puppet is real, even if a puppet, the CG Yoda is not real at all.


I don't think it's about being real, but instead about being realistic. What good is it if a character is a real object, if the audiences only see it as a lifeless doll? Being a real doll, doesn't make it a realistic character, and I think that's what's important. I'm not saying that Yoda's puppet is bad, I'm only saying that both puppet and digital Yoda have their own limitations, and one is not more realistic than the other.


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I don't see the old Yoda as a puppet. Even though I sort of understand how he was realized, I can still believe in him.


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I don't see the old Yoda as a puppet. Even though I sort of understand how he was realized, I can still believe in him.


Same with CGI Yoda. Even though people know how he was realized, they can still believe in him.


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Since no one has mentioned it, I’m going to assume that Qui Gon’s elongated “no” in AOTC is still the same. Also, has Ki Adi Mundi’s saber effects been corrected during the Arena airlift? Is his saber blue in all shots (and not green in medium shots and close-ups)?

The inconstant quality control issues with the BR conversion make me worry about the 3D releases. Even though I’m not a big fan of 3D, I‘ve been looking forward to seeing the films in a new way. I hope there is a higher standard for the 3D adaption process than the BR process.


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ETAndElliot4Ever wrote:
I don't see the old Yoda as a puppet. Even though I sort of understand how he was realized, I can still believe in him.

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Same with CGI Yoda. Even though people know how he was realized, they can still believe in him.

More importantly, Mark Hammill can relate to him. His work I don't think gets enough credit, being trapped in a shitty humid set for weeks with only a puppet to talk to. Regardless, because he has something to act with he sells those scenes. Given nothing at all to work with (yeah, and some pretty shitty dialogue and lazy direction) no one in the PT has half as much luck.


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More importantly, Mark Hamill can relate to him. His work I don't think gets enough credit, being trapped in a shitty humid set for weeks with only a puppet to talk to. Regardless, because he has something to act with he sells those scenes.

Well said.


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Since the Clone Wars series was made after Episode III, have they changed the voices of the Super Battle Droids to the tougher ones heard in TCW?


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I think they’ve stopped answering questions.


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I don't have any answers for those so-called "movies" because I didn't waste the time or bandwidth to get them. Besides, droids created for war that talk to each other are obsurd.


Says the guy who has wasted countless HOURS on this very forum trashing these movies... Nope, you don't waste any time on them at all.


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Ascovel wrote:
But that's the thing - the puppet is real, even if a puppet, the CG Yoda is not real at all.

Actually Frank Oz keeps out of sight, so it's like a kickass living puppet interacting with Luke! The way all movie creatures should be done! ;)


This X100. That clip looks more magical to me than anything I have seen created in CGI.

The problem, for me, is not that CGI is "new", more it is that it is still "young" - so I'm not one of those who is against the shift to CGI, I just think the fact is it is a technology in its infancy (with regards with how it is being used to make movies now).

People have been working with puppets for centuries, and people have been creating illusions on film with models, masks and puppets for the best part of a century. Again, just my personal opinion, but when you see ROTJ Jabba, or TESB Yoda, or the famous shot from the Battle of Endor with the Falcon passing through all those TIEs, you are seeing an atform at its peak.

All those years of experience and tradition reaching a logical conclusion in ILM's work on those films, and notable others in that early-to-mid-80s era.

We are in a new era of filmmaking, and different things are possible, so we should embrace that - but CGI is nowhere near at that same level yet, IMHO. And the issue for me is not comparing how a puppet looks with how CGI looks, it is about how believable a scene is in and of itself, however it was realised.

And I just don't have that same belief in CGI creations yet, compared to the more tangible alternatives that were the only option a couple of decades ago, on the available evidence so far. I don't have a problem with the prequels on that front - they are "of their time", just as the OT is of its time too.

There is no denying that TPM Yoda was a pretty shoddy example of a puppet though.

If I do have a gripe with the PT, it is perhaps that the actual design work, the pre-production stuff, isn't quite in the same league as the OT. But that is all. I feel mutch more strongly about CGI editions to the classic films at the end of the day.


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So Passel Argente was not restored to AOTC?















Fucking Orcs....


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the spielberg duel would have been epic :chewbacca:


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Some other changes to verify:

• TPM : the opening shot of the Republic Cruiser, is it shorter? (been comparing to the German HD, which is definitely longer) This shot definitely has a larger size (the 8% the press junkets talked about) but the next shot (interior) the shot hasn't changed...

• AotC : Two sequences are re-edited. Obi-Anakin in the speeder going through the power couplings, two shots are flipped. Similar re-edited with the post Yoda/Dooku battle, the Anakin/Obi shot is shifted and the Padme Arrival/Dooku fleeing are relocated.

On the issue of the color shift towards teal. The shot of Anakin talking to Padme after the confession of killing the Tusken Raiders. When he says "I'm a Jedi, I know i'm better than this" that shot has a possibly different color revision.

• RotS : Right after Order 66, the establishing shot of Kashyyyk, the roofs of the buildings is significantly darker. This one i'm less sure of, but there's something going on, the Jedi Temple establishing shot about 30 minutes in, the bottom half of the frame is different. Maybe they re-rendered and that's causing it to show up as a change, somethings up.

Another odd one, when Obi is talking to Padme about Anakin killing younglings, there's a odd rectangle around Obi's head. Looks like they tried to give him a halo, but the affected highlights are rectangular.


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Has anyone noticed the stars behind the opening crawl of Sith - kind of warble? Is it my tv or the disc?

Is it me or the opening crawls have been formatted throughout the saga? On empire right now, I'd swear their weren't planets Visible behind the star destroyer in the opening shot before.


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Have another look; there's always been a couple of small planets in the ESB opening shot.


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