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Well, actually, they work pretty well together, especially the tonal progression. But the story could have been improved on. It feels that Lucas made up a lot of stuff as he went along instead of developing the whole trilogy first (at least in the treatment form).


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The writing is terrible. Period.

Anakin and Padme with little to no history (or chemistry) are together for a couple days, he murders a bunch of Sandpeople and they marry. What? It's not like in Empire and Jedi where a romance was actually feasible (as opposed to straight sex appeal in the first one, where nobody got the girl). You had characters who had been together for years, knew each other pretty well and played really well off each other.

I still have no clue what's going on with the clones and the chase scene at the beginning. So Boba Fett hires another alien to kill Padme, right? She attempts to kill her with slugs (??) as opposed to just bombing the tower or sending a probot or something to annihilate her in any kind of logical way. So Obi-Wan grabs the probot by jumping out the window in a ridiculous and extremely stupid stunt that would clearly have killed him. I mean, at least when Luke jumped at Cloud City, he was like choosing to die. Anyway, they chase the alien to a bar and then Boba Fett shoots a dart into her than leads them to a planet deleted from the Jedi map. This is where the clones have been bred, apparently created for the Republic by a guy who did exist, but the Jedi never knew about and it's driving them crazy and they feel they can't even use the Force anymore.

So I have no clue what's really happening at this point, but I'm still especially irritated and puzzled by one line by the prime minister on the clone planet, a voice actor that blows the rest of the cast away with like a minute of dialogue, if that. "One of the finest armies we've ever created." As though this is just a normal thing for them. So someone could show up to these guys with a fortune, create an army and take on the Republic? I don't know, I just don't like any of this. The writing is frickin' terrible.


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I can't believe how long its been since the film has been released. I have a tremendous amount of nostalgia over the three years between TPM & AOTC. Not sure I've ever been as obsessed with anything in my life as I was with SW at that moment in time. It's absurd the amount of time I spent pouring over images of the actors over bluescreen (especially Natalie Portman) trying to discern anything I could from it. I don't regret it.

It was a fun ride. The three years of entertainment I got from that experience far outweighs the shortcomings of the film, which are numerous.

This could have been the best of the PT films but Lucas & Burtt conspired to destroy it in post. They did so quite efficiently. I still enjoy watching and the final act is one of the best stretches in all of Star Wars if you can get past what they did with the music.


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my retro on AOTC? As a Star Wars fan I am embarrassed to watch this movie. If it's on TV I won't stop to watch it.

Worst of the series by a mile and if you removed the SW brand from its production it would never be heard from again. Awful piece of filmmaking at almost every level.


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I know quite a few young women who, like me, consider it their favorite entry of the saga. For the very aspect the film's mostly male detractors mock and whine on and on about - the romance.

I'm happy to say that I am far from a martinet, quite in touch with my feminine side and can fully appreciate the greater breadth of human experience. That includes the type of human activity portrayed in AOTC's exquisite scenes of lakefront longing, meadowside frolicking and sincerely expressed romantic sentiment by fireplace.

There was quite a bit of adult male giggling during the screening of AOTC at this past December's marathon event I attended. I chalk it up to immaturity and nervous insecurity. Not surprising.


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At the marathon screening, every Anakin and Padme scene elicited laughter. The decent, poignant moments that should define the film are instead diminished by its flaws. This movie makes me cringe the most.

Oh boy, Somnambulist. Negative reactions were had by all, male and female. The romance isn't an issue of demographic. It's the concept of love as filtered through George, combined with atrocious dialogue and itemized acting elements.


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I've always secretly thought that the large-assed shaaks on Naboo in that particularly infamous meadow scene represent the bounteous vulnerability of the Republic. Take that as you will. :bunnys: :lol:


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However, that's Alexrd's quote above, not mine - even though I'm in complete agreement.


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The dated CGI and “Padme falls in love with Anakin because… I guess Anakin really, really wanted her to” romance have been well-documented, but I think my biggest problem with AOTC is how utterly contrived so much of it is.

Picture this: The bad guys want Padme dead. Instead of going after her themselves, they hire a bounty hunter. But instead of going after her himself, Jango hires another bounty hunter. But when the second bounty hunter fails to take out Padme, Jango kills her before she can give up who hired her. So why was Jango just hanging out and watching all of this? Don’t say to make sure the job got done, because Jango could have easily gotten the job done and killed Padme himself when Obi-Wan and Anakin chased after Zam. So why did all of this happen? Either Jango is terrible at his job, or ”Ehh, who cares! We just need a chase scene in there.”

There are plenty of other elements that could have easily been cleaned up or omitted to streamline the plot. It has some good set pieces, especially everything between Obi-Wan and Jango on Kamino, but the film and its characters really would have benefited from a few script revisions.


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