Nirvana: With The Lights Out

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Nirvana: With The Lights Out

Postby Jason@Star-Wars.net » November 23rd 2004 6:03 am

I don't know if you any of you are Nirvana fans, but the box set is finally here. I did a lot of research and the cheapest price I found it for was for $27.98 at Target. Considering that it goes for like $60 at most places it was a pretty damn good price. I thought I would share that with the kids that might be fans of Nirvana.


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I've already heard all the tunes and can say it is really good. It's probably not for the casual fan though. If you only enjoy the singles, it's probably not for you. I really dig the Leadbelly covers a lot. I haven't checked out the DVD yet though. For those of you with a clean ear for mixing, the Butch Vig mixes of "Breed" and "Teen Spirit" are really great with litte compression (more reverb) and very raw. I do think it gives a lot to every type of fan though.

If you're a fan of Nirvana's work and you have never owned a Nirvana bootleg, this set will rock your face off!
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Postby bacta » November 23rd 2004 7:17 am

nirvana sucks real bad +++ post count
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Postby dylan » November 23rd 2004 12:26 pm

You suck the asses.

Nirvana was :heavymetal: until they sold out.

Mr Moustache = :heavymetal:
Big Cheese = :heavymetal:
No Recess = :heavymetal:
Swap Meet = :heavymetal:

Man who Sold the World = :what:

Had tickets to see Nirvana & Chili Peppers with special guest Pearl Jam in '91 but my ride fell through. Saw the other two nuemerous times, but never did see Nirvana.
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Postby KitFisto » November 23rd 2004 12:37 pm

mcdermd wrote:Had tickets to see Nirvana & Chili Peppers with special guest Pearl Jam in '91 but my ride fell through. Saw the other two nuemerous times, but never did see Nirvana.


Too bad sounds like an Awesome line up, too bad Nirvana :mfyd:
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Postby dylan » November 23rd 2004 12:43 pm

KitFist0 wrote: too bad Nirvana :mfyd:


:lol:

S'okay. I saw a lot better shows back then. Janes Addction, Pixies & Primus in 1990 for one show comes to mind.
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Postby bacta » November 23rd 2004 1:45 pm

mcdermd wrote:Had tickets to see Nirvana & Chili Peppers with special guest Pearl Jam in '91 but my ride fell through. Saw the other two nuemerous times, but never did see Nirvana.


holy shit I would actually like to see that
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Postby Projbalance » November 23rd 2004 4:25 pm

McD, you have to remember that they played "Man Who Sold the World" on their MTV Unplugged special when they were expected to to only play their hits. The whole show they bucked the status quo for those shows and did exactly what they wanted to do. For a sucessful punk band to do an acoustic cover of a little known David Bowie song on a major television appearance during the height of their career is not selling out by my account. As far as I can tell Nirvana never sold out. They always did whatever they wanted, or if they did comply with the powers that be, they made it as uncomfortable as they could to do so. I don't think Kurt Cobain was a god or prophet of any kind, but we have not seen his like since.
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Postby dylan » November 24th 2004 2:56 am

Punk? Nirvana was punk? Huh. I must have ,issed the memo. They've always been "Seattle Rock" around here.

Sorry - they were on MTV to begin with. That's nowhere near "Bucking the Trend". You wanna see "Didn't sell out?" Janes. They quit at the height of their popularity. Hatchet job. Done. It pissed me off at the time, but at least there was only ever one "Been Caught Stealing" instead of several half assed copies. Nearly the same with Pixies. Pearl Jam had a good thing for two albums before they stopped wanting to hang together and actually write music. Chili Peppers are past their freshness date. Cherry Poppin Daddies went from a bunch of weed head Ska/Jazz/Punk/Swing guys with a giant gas-powered, condom-spitting paper maché penis to "Swing" and a then a self-destruct.

See a lot come and go. But whatever. Nirvana was pretty decent through Nevermind. But I was always more of a Mudhoney/Soundgarden fan for Seattle Rock anyways.
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Postby Jason@Star-Wars.net » November 24th 2004 7:02 am

Nirvana's music impacted me pretty heavily. I found something there I never got from Pearl Jam, Alice In Chains, and Jane's Addiction. I enjoy their sincerity at a very primal musical level. I’m not going to get into a “punker then you” debate because it will just waste our time. I don’t believe success musically, has to equal selling out. They never compromised in a way that hurt their integrity in my opinion. In Utero is one of the most moving albums I have ever owned.

Anyways, I just started this thread to maybe give a few Nirvana fans a chance to save $30 off the list price.

P.S. I really dig the Pixies and Mudhoney but never enjoyed the majority of the "Seattle Sound."
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Postby Ayatollah Krispies » November 24th 2004 11:05 pm

Punk died around 1978. I never quite understood the relatively recent use of the term to describe a style of music. Green Day's about as punk as the Knack.

Jason@Star-Wars.net wrote:Anyways, I just started this thread to maybe give a few Nirvana fans a chance to save $30 off the list price.


Thanks for the heads up. Nirvana was overrated and way overplayed during the heyday of Nevermind, but they've been unfairly pigeonholed because of it. There's stuff on In Utero (and even on Incesticide) that no one else has come close to since. Cobain was clearly uncomfortable with the spotlight that had been shone on the band and did his best to use his "power" in order to give others some of that spotlight. But at some point he recognized that he was going to be thought of as the guy who sang the "here we are now, entertain us" song for the rest of his life.

Too fucking bad.
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Postby KitFisto » November 24th 2004 11:10 pm

Correct, but did you know that most of the bands out that are called punk, don't call themselves punk ? It is mostly pop music.
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Postby Projbalance » November 25th 2004 12:11 am

"Seattle Rock" was the term given to bands from that area (by the way, Nirvana are not actually from Seattle, but that's just being picky). If you go back to the Sub-Pop releases from Nirvana it's pretty clear what they were doing. MTV and the rest of popular culture gravitated toward these bands. When Nirvana and Jam and Mudhoneny and Garden first appeared it was during the decline of Pop Metal. The Seattle bands did not openly court those elements. However, it was those elements that became thier undoing. Nirvana may be overplayed now, but so are the Stones and Zepplin if you choose to look at it that way. No matter what you might think of Cobain as a person, it is pretty silly to dismiss the bands impact on music and their place in the history of popular music.
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Postby Insert Username » November 25th 2004 4:15 am

Nirvana were overplayed and overrated by the media in their time but I reckon they were still pretty fucking good. I'm a huge fan of their most underplayed album: In Utero. Underplayed because they knew how to fuck with record companies and radio stations and make them nervous by that stage. But then I'm a Steve Albini/Big Black fan too.
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Postby SkyWard » November 25th 2004 10:27 pm

I can't wait to buy this. I usually go to Best Buy to get my DVDs but if Target is cheaper I'll definitely go there. I'm glad I read this thread because it could save me some money.

For me, Nirvana was the sound of my high school years. Hearing them play brings back fond memories of when I was young and hanging out with my friends. It's become a part of the theme of my life; a part of my own personal soundtrack. Kurt Cobain was someone I secretly admired from afar. He had a sort of essence to him that alot of us young guys could latch onto alot like our parents' generation latched onto the charisma of Elvis. There aren't too many people that have that essence in this world. The guy reeked of talent and creativity. For creative people, like myself, that brings inspiration and because of Kurt Cobain and Nirvana I could dream of being whatever I wanted. Dave Grohl rocks too and I'm glad Foo Fighters are still around. I know nothing of Krist.

I'm glad to hear this DVD is worth it.
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Postby dylan » November 26th 2004 1:22 pm

Tony Montana wrote:Nirvana was part of the Grunge era, not punk.


And us northwesterners shudder when people call it "grunge". That's a word invented by MTV and, to me, represents the dissection of the good music from the Puget Sound area. Plech.[/img]
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Postby Projbalance » November 26th 2004 1:58 pm

Agreed. That music was all just punk and hard rock with some metal thrown in, bar rock in a lot of cases. They werent trying to change the world, they just wanted to play.
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Postby dylan » November 26th 2004 7:18 pm

Projbalance wrote:They werent trying to change the world, they just wanted to play.


... and drink Rainier beer
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Postby Kalla » November 26th 2004 8:25 pm

We could use a "Nirvanaesque" band now a days to shake up the music scene.

I find I'm listening to talk radio now more and more because of the shit I hear, or rather, is played on the radio. Also.... has anyone actually tuned into MTV lately? Pure Shit.



I work at a BB and picked up my copy at Target. Not even with my employee discount did I get that price.

Thanks for the heads up Jason.
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Postby SkyWard » November 27th 2004 2:07 am

Kalla wrote:We could use a "Nirvanaesque" band now a days to shake up the music scene.

Modest Mouse? Although, they've been around for awhile, I hope they take the music scene with them as they get more popular. I hope other bands are noticing.
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Postby BobTheGoon » November 27th 2004 12:27 pm

Fuck Kurt Cobain. I'm going to punch the next person I see wearing a goddamned Kurt Kobain t-shirt with his fucking years on it.

"Oh Kurt, I miss you so much. You were such a genius. I cut myself because I love you, Kurt!"
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Postby Projbalance » November 27th 2004 2:36 pm

Why's that, Bob? What's your beef with Cobain and those people?
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Postby Jason@Star-Wars.net » November 27th 2004 6:45 pm

I'm glad a few of you have great taste and I was able to help save you some money. That was the point of the thread.

BobTheGoon, you shouldn't buy the Nirvana Box Set. You already spent too much money on your ICP CDs, DVDs, action figures, and authentic face paint. :mrgreen:
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Postby Bentom » November 28th 2004 11:07 am

oh snap bob's down with the clown?
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Postby BobTheGoon » November 28th 2004 1:45 pm

ICP can suck my left nut.

Any band that claims to be "hardcore" while selling t-shirts is about the lowest form of entertaininment in my book.

The ultimate irony for me is some pathetic loser wearing a fucking "Rage Against the Machine" T-shirt.
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Postby BobTheGoon » November 28th 2004 4:39 pm

When a band signs a multimillion dollar deal with a major record label they cease to be "rebels". Sorry.
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Postby Projbalance » November 28th 2004 5:22 pm

You should read "Confessions of a Record Producer" by Moses Avalon. IF you think signing a contract is selling out, you've got another thing coming.
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Postby KitFisto » November 28th 2004 11:50 pm

Tarful wrote:Musicians and Pro Sports players are in the same boat to me: OVERPAID AND OVERHYPED. Not one of those poeple are worth the money they are paid. :mad:


Musicians aren't over payed, they get virtually nothing. Piracy hurts the company profits not the concert profits.
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Postby Projbalance » November 29th 2004 1:10 am

If you look at which musicians are getting the money these days, it's easy to see the the point of them being worthless. Many bands and musicians have no desire to be rich, they just want to make music. However, record companies and their corporate owners DO want to be rich, so they usually only sign bands that will help them attain those goals. Since this country has very limited funding for the arts, it's very difficult for any independant artist to make a living doing their art, which is sad because there is a lot of good, independant social and personal commentary in those arts that is going relatively unheard by the public. I've always felt that many in this country treat a persons art as unimportant unless it makes money somewhere down the road.
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Postby mayorjuana » December 4th 2004 12:12 am

mcdermd wrote:You suck the asses.

Nirvana was :heavymetal: until they sold out.

Mr Moustache = :heavymetal:
Big Cheese = :heavymetal:
No Recess = :heavymetal:
Swap Meet = :heavymetal:

Man who Sold the World = :what:

Had tickets to see Nirvana & Chili Peppers with special guest Pearl Jam in '91 but my ride fell through. Saw the other two nuemerous times, but never did see Nirvana.


They sold out? was this before or after kurt?

man ending up face down with a barrell in your mouth is as punk rock as you can get, especially after escaping rehab... Thats no sell out
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Postby Projbalance » December 5th 2004 10:55 pm

There is definately a school of thought that suggests that once you sign to a major you lose all your cred, in effect, you have sold yourself to the corporations. Since you can make records and play shows without going to a major, it does stand to reason that the only reason left to go big is to sell MORE records and make more money. I can understand that mode of thinking. ON the other hand, you can also say that a band signing to a major is only trying to take advantage of a wider market area, having no real idea what it is they are realy signing on for until it is, for most bands, to late to do anything about it. Some bands learn how to game the system(i.e. RATM) and find a way to be commercial enough successes, or fight enough battles, that the record stays off their backs to some degree and let's them just make music. I think it comes down to the band, and that is the time that you see what the band is truely made of.
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