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Just came back from my 1st viewing and all i can say is that this truely is a great movie. 10/10 for sure! This is truely the Batman Movie we have all been waiting for. Thank you Chris Nolan!


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For those that want spoilers

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-Joker survives, he is last seen dangling over a balcony before police arrives. Coincidently the Joker from Batman '89 dies in a similar manner but in the Dark Knight he is saved by Batman by using his grappling hook.

-Two-Face dies, he is killed when Batman stops him from killing Gordons son who then accidentally knocks off a ledge. Two-Face blames Gordon for the death of Rachael. Two-Face goes on killing spree, using his coin to decide the fate of those he sees that have betrayed him.

-Rachael dies when she is kidnapped by cops who are also working for Maroni, she is tied up with barrels of oil surrounding her and a timer counting down. This happens to Dent as well by is saved in the nick of time by batman but is scared by the explosion. Gordon is to late to save Rachael.

-Lucious Fox resigns from Wayne Industries at the end of the movie.

-Scarecrow returns, however he is in it for only 5mins. He is taken down by batman like a normal thug.

-Joker's origins are not revealed, however he does give different explanations for his scares to Gamble, Racheal and Batman.

-Batman decides to take the blame for Dents actions in killing those that made him who he is. He does this so that people of Gotham still have hope for Dent who becomes mentally unstable and is further more corrupted by the Joker. Batman is last seen fleeing from police. Only Joker and Gordon really know the truth that happens with Dent.

This sets up the story for the next Batman movie where Gordon has to chase down Batman.[/align][/spoil]


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[spoil][align=left]Spoilers ahead:
-Lucious Fox resigns from Wayne Industries at the end of the movie.

I think he doesn't, as he says he "won't work at Wayne Enterprises while [the cell-sonar] exists", so after it's destruction I think he'll stay on.


As for other spoilers, if there's anything specific, ask it.

Looking at the movie, 3 scenes alone show how good Heath was as the Joker: the first scene in the bank, the climax of the chase on the streets of Gotham, and the destruction of the hospital.

Oldman has been said to have been disappointed with the lack of time that Gordon got in the movie, and you can see why. He doesn't have as much screen time, but I think that he still has a strong presence. The need to set up Dent took away a little of time that could be used, and I would have liked to see more time elapse so that the connection between the 3 was stronger. But it isn't more than an aesthetics choice as a fan of the Year One/Long Halloween time-period.

Caine again provides a wonderfully understated but strong showing as Alfred, and we learn a little bit more of his past as a soldier in SE Asia.
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I reckon that the best joker scene would definantly of been his magical pensil disappearing trick. Just remembering back to it, its both funny and disturbing at the same time. I dont know what was better that scene or the fact that half the audience cheered and clapped & the other half gasping lol.

Also, the interrogation scene by the Batman as well as the hospital scenes were both very very memorable. His reaction to the delayed explosion of the hospital is just funny as hell. (':lol:')


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I'll agree that the magic trick was a great way to sum everything up with quickly for the audience. Canberra audiences aren't known for their vocality, but they did react to that scene in my session.


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I don't think this can be called a comic book movie. It's a psychological drama on par with The Prestige. Very dark, very twisted. Awesome plot twists. I was conflicted on whether to cheer for the Joker because he was such a perfect villain, or loathe him for being the brutal monster he was.

Anyone else think Gyllanhaal sucked as Rachael Dawes? The audience clapped during two places: the reveal of the batpod and her death!


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Gyllanhaal sucked, but she wasn't even a factor. Holmes sucked in the first one too, honestly, there should not be a female lead in these (Nolan) Batmans.

I'm pissed on Harvey's death, and even more pissed with myself because I agree with the decision in the grand scheme of things. Harvey's Death, makes Two-Face more of a tragedy, and come on, an entire film (Batman 3) with HIM as the villain would have RULED from a comic book fan's standpoint, but hearing the same "Harvey you're good, come back," and "Shut up Batman, flip a coin you die" dialogue throughout an entire film as Two-Face headed up the Villain rampage, would get boring. (Like my run-on sentences)

Anyway, I see the Riddler, unfortunately, being the only Bat Villain left to work in a Nolan film. So expect him. Killer Croc will never work onscreen, and lower class criminals like Black Mask, and Scarface, would be pointless. I'm not sure Victor Freeze could ever work in a Nolan film either. Selina Kyle (Catwoman) would not fit in a Nolan film, because she is a petty cat burglar, not a evil, devious, murderous criminal. Same with Oswald (Penguin) as he's just a crime boss with gimmicks, umbrella gimmicks. I don't know, he MAY work.

We now have both Johathan Crane (Scarecrow) as well as the Joker in Arkham. But anyone other than Ledger trying the role would make me vomit now. They may be able to CG his face in a scene or two, but you can't CG that acting, and mark my words, he will get an (honorary) Oscar in the next Academy Awards.

Heath Ledger was brilliant, this was the role he was meant to play and Damn him for killing himself. (intential or not, he did people, he did.) He was, for lack of a better word, perfect as The Joker.

Well, that's my little opinion, and that's all it is.

Bring on Batman 3 (2011?)


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Now THAT is impressive if it can break Revenge Of The Sith's record. I can't wait to see this movie in two weeks.


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The first hour for me was a bit slow and the movie didn't really pick up until the transport of pre-Two Face Harvey Dent. When The Tumbler phoenix-ed into The BatPod, that's when the movie took off. Although the part after the Joker hi-jacked semi-truck flipped over, where The BatPod did a about face when it appeared it was going to crash into the wall was a bit odd.

The standout performance in this film wasn't Ledger's Joker, it was Harvey "Two-Face" Dent. That motherfucker stole the show straight up. The Joker was more like Ledger playing Anthony Hopkin's Hannibal Lecter character . I'm convinced any actor could do the job and all credit for should be given to the screenwriters.

The weakest part of the movie was Batman or should I say the voice of Batman. The growl of Batman is something I would expect from a death metal band's lead vocalist. Bruce Wayne's natural voice should have been used as Batman's. The costume that bothered me and a few others worked in the movie. The batsuit is a militaristic armor whose style is in keeping The Tumbler and The BatPod. What turned it arould for me was the awesome flight-glide segments and the Bat Sonar built into the cowl's eyes towards the end. Although Batman's gold utility belt is something one would expect Wonder Woman to wear. Batman needs a utility belt with huge compartments.

Bruce Wayne the character was another standout. As with Begins, the blurring of Batman and Bruce Wayne is continued in The Dark Knight. When Bruce Wayne was hauling ass down the road in the dark blue Lambo, I was all like: "fuck yeah". :cool:

Seriously, the movie could have worked with just Bruce Wayne and not even feature Batman (sans "playboy" Bruce Wayne of course).

Regarding the success of the film, there is a lot of pent-up summer demand and no real competition. Indiana Jones came and went, The Incredible Hulk had weak special effects, including a shitty looking Hulk, and Wall-E is just another pixar film. In the summer there should be big event movies released once a week, not once a month.


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I don't hate The Dark Knight, it's just that Ledger and his Joker have been blown up to mythic proportions. We didn't get the script early but we got tons of stills and the bootlegged first six minutes of the movie IMAX footage. So it maybe a case of being overexposed to Ledger's Joker and overspoiled in general.

All I am saying here is that I did not expect get knocked over by Eckhart's Harvey Dent or Bale's Bruce Wayne performance. I was much more impressed by those characterizations than the Joker's Silence Of The Lambs role. I'm not into DC characters or Batman in particular but Dent and Wayne were all sorts of awesome in the movie. The first hour didn't do it for me which leaves the remaining one hour and a half that did do it for me.

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