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Post Posted: March 7th 2014 8:54 am
 
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Official site has more Episode info and galleries. Maybe video or complete episodes at some point, at least for a limited time?
http://starwars.com/explore/the-clone-wars/


Not in the next few months, Netflix must have some kind of exclusivity.


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The Yoda arc was fucking great. :? :? :? :? :? :?

Fantastic send off to the series as a whole.

Here's an EW interview with Filoni on The Lost Missions

And here's another Filoni interview with the LA Times


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so anyone know when the first upload or torrent for season 6 will be? unfortunately living in Australia means I don't get Netflix :(


The first 3 episodes have landed on private tor sites..... but only 1 on piratebay


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Torrents are starting to roll out online


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Only watched #1 so far and noticed Katie Lucas had writing credit. I only know of her writing Jedi Crash previously, I'll find out during my marathon tonight if she wrote others or all but I kind of hope not.

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Torrents are starting to roll out online


I love free stuff too but can't you just get netflix? It would be cool for Netflix to have a surge of subs to demonstrate how great and loved Clone Wars is. Then cancel if you need to after watching them


Post Posted: March 7th 2014 8:58 pm
 
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For those who don't want to wait for the downloads, Netflix offers a free, no-commitment month-long trial. Signed up for the first time and beyond the awesomeness of instant access to these 13 episodes, I'm really discovering the ease and quality of the service.


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Don't get me wrong, I would go on Netflix right now and support clone wars, but it wont let me join. The moment this comes out on blu-ray ill be buying it like I've always done.


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From France... so I'm doing it the pirate way

Completely blown away by the order 66 arc................... I had seen the german (and I don't speak it) full screen low-res version on youtube and read the full translation too....

and yet it really felt I was discovering it all
Incredible
the animation makes the finale Ahsoka arc look like season 3 by comparison... I was like "now this is toy story 3 level", the arrival on Coruscant at the beginning of "orders" was particularly amazing, almost as good looking as shots from ROTS
and Tim Curry finally sounds perfectly fine I thought, especially as Sidious he is almost completely the same as Abercrombie

it's 3 in the morning but I think I'll watch the Clovis arc before sleeping... but now I can't imagine how good the Yoda must be -fangasm tomorrow-


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Only watched #1 so far and noticed Katie Lucas had writing credit. I only know of her writing Jedi Crash previously, I'll find out during my marathon tonight if she wrote others or all but I kind of hope not.

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Torrents are starting to roll out online


I love free stuff too but can't you just get netflix? It would be cool for Netflix to have a surge of subs to demonstrate how great and loved Clone Wars is. Then cancel if you need to after watching them



geoblocking prevents people from doing just that Im afraid. Allthough a VPN such as unblock us, resolves that problem and they have a week long trial...

Still waiting for 11,12 and 13 to hit the deck...


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12 is up, just waiting on 11 & 13


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All episodes are up! oh yeah! :chewbacca: :chewbacca: :bouncin:


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Watched the first four episodes for tonight and they are friggin fantastic! Totally enriched the whole Clone/Order 66 conspiracy. Poor Fives, I really felt for him and the clones as a whole.


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The Yoda arc was great and very somber way of ending the show.

Although I dislike the notion that [spoil]only light siders can retain their identity after death (a Lucas idea), there's some evidence in the last episode to support the earlier EU appearances of Sith ghosts. Otherwise, how would Sidious know Yoda was on Korriban/Moraband? He doesn't have the connection to him like Dooku does...[/spoil]


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The Order 66 / Yoda arcs were very strong. I still have to digest them to come up with some discussion points.

I don't blame Filoni, but the Clovis arc illustrates why Padme might be the worst character in Star Wars. She doesn't even work well as a damsel in distress. To my point, the Jar Jar mission was more entertaining.


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The_Somnambulist wrote:
For those who don't want to wait for the downloads, Netflix offers a free, no-commitment month-long trial. Signed up for the first time and beyond the awesomeness of instant access to these 13 episodes, I'm really discovering the ease and quality of the service.


Thanks for that info. I did not know that. I signed up for the free trial today and have just watched the first 5 episodes.

Damn good stuff. Some of the best of the entire series.


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Thoughts on the Order 66 arc I just finished watching:

[spoil]So. Fucking. Good.

Sense of overwhelming dread, suffocating claustrophobia, impending tragedy and searing paranoia at the point that the devil reveals itself. Unlike anything earlier in the series. Brilliant, clever writing in presenting Palpatine's/Sidious' perfectly orchestrated manipulation and control of his republic. And it's so haunting when Fives is lumbering around the city, the completely blissfully ignorant city. The cab driver bit was great. However, I kinda wanted an ending where Fives gets his mind wiped and is placed in Kaminoan sanitation duty (as was the plan earlier) but I guess that alternative would be unrealistic after a charge as serious as attempted assassination of the chancellor. Anyway, easily my favorite arc of the series. It did things that storytellers in any other medium rarely accomplish because none have such an epic scale and context at their disposal.

Outstanding arc in every aspect and because of that insane finale, easily my favorite arc.[/spoil]

Can't wait to get through the remaining 9 episodes. Gotta take it slow and really savor the last of this phenomenal series. :)


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So many great things in this series. I loved the "Koyaanisqatsi" moment about half way through the "Voices" episode. Just amazing work.


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Just finished a marathon viewing of all 13 episodes. I can't believe it is now over but I'm so glad we at least got these amazing stories.

Thinking of it now, I truly don't believe this season would have worked on CN in any case. There were just so many adult themes that if you would have replaced the animation with live action we'd probably be viewing it on primetime cable. Despite the inevitable complaints over "wasting time" with trivial side stories like the Jar-Jar arc, I actually quite enjoyed it. Without that arc this entire season would feel like a bunch of downers. Plus, one forgets how much of a badass Mace is until he shows up on-screen to remind you.

But now I sit here at the end. I still feel like fandom has been robbed of such a superior show. It suffered from many not giving it a chance at the start, but it has grown into something I could have never imagined. If this is how George Lucas's direct influence ends in the GFFA I don't know how he could have done much better. I have high hopes for Rebels/Ep. 7 but I know it will not be the same. I'm just glad to know that Dave Filoni survived the purge and is still developing projects. We all lucked out when they chose him.

Overall, the series is a 10/10. Would recommend.


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I ordered Netflix for the "Lost Missions", well worth it. Marathon though all 13, Yoda arc and Sifo Dyas episodes were good. Then went back to the Ahsoka arc at the end of season 5. In my mind still the best episodes of the entire series.


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A truly magnificent and epic end to the series. I feel like I've eaten from the table and can finally walk away feeling satisfied. These thirteen episodes were all fantastic -- Order 66 & the Yoda arcs in particular are so rich not only visually, but contain many different and complex layers.
They add a new depth to the expanding Star Wars mythology and will be enjoyed for many years to come. High praise to Dave, George & Co.


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At the start of story development, the Sith world was called Korriban, but George Lucas preferred to change its name to Moraband. A world so ancient could have been known by different names in different eras.


Told you so. ;)

Just finished watching the Yoda arc and i'm still in awe over how fantastic it was. Liam Neeson's voice was just the cherry on top.

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If this is how George Lucas's direct influence ends in the GFFA I don't know how he could have done much better. I have high hopes for Rebels/Ep. 7 but I know it will not be the same.


Same here.


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What an incredible series of episodes. The Yoda arc...I mean, I didn't know this series was capable of something like that.

Thank you Dave. Thank you George. Thank you everyone associated with the Clone Wars.


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Watched the first four episodes for tonight and they are friggin fantastic! Totally enriched the whole Clone/Order 66 conspiracy. Poor Fives, I really felt for him and the clones as a whole.


I’ve been expecting Fives to die ever since I found out he was a member of “Domino” squad. GL isn’t subtle with his symbolism sometimes. As expected, all five members “fell” by the end of the series.

It seems that Fives' death is a stand-in for the tragic fate of all clones. Despite their honor and nobility, there’s no hope for them. They’re tools for murder in a cause that's lost by design.

I suppose that Rex has a chance. Since he’s known Fives personally for a while, I doubt he will buy the establishment’s convenient parasite explanation.

At the start, who would have thought both Rex and Ahsoka would survive the series’ run? I know I didn’t.

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The Yoda arc was great and very somber way of ending the show.

Although I dislike the notion that only light siders can retain their identity after death (a Lucas idea), there's some evidence in the last episode to support the earlier EU appearances of Sith ghosts. Otherwise, how would Sidious know Yoda was on Korriban/Moraband? He doesn't have the connection to him like Dooku does…

Yoda receiving a premonition of his last worldly moments is sad yet appropriate. After all, the show’s staff knew this was the end run as they finished this episode.

Sidious’ knowledge is sort-of like the cave on Dagobah. The Priestess explains that the temple on Morband is one of those weird places in the galaxy where normal rules don’t apply.

Concerning ghosts: The Sith are materialists. To them, all the good stuff happens when you have a corporeal existence. In turn, they probably aren't interested in playing around in the Living Force as ethereal sprites.

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I don't blame Filoni, but the Clovis arc illustrates why Padme might be the worst character in Star Wars. She doesn't even work well as a damsel in distress. To my point, the Jar Jar mission was more entertaining.


Compared to other episodes, it didn’t seem as if Padme was the focus of the danger. So, I don’t think the “damsel in distress” analogy works with this story.

Padme has both a conflicted and adaptable personality, which makes her hard to follow at times. When she’s introduced in TPM, she goes from being a pacifist to woman of action out of necessity. In ATOC, she tries to be rationalist with Anakin, but ultimately caves to her feelings. In this arc, I though the battle between her head and heart was portrayed in a sympathetic manner. It reminded me of the “Shadow Warrior” episode. In that story, she had the choice of trading Anakin for Grievous. Rationally, it’s a fair trade. However, she goes with her heart instead. Prior to that point, I didn’t think that her idolism was limited. It seems I was wrong.

IGN had a recent article about the benefit of the show to the ancillary characters. To me, Padme, Obi-wan, and Anakin have been aided the most by this series. In ways I didn’t expected, their personalities and storylines have been stretched and deepened.

With the lost missions, Dooku and Sidious were finally shown in their full scary-smart glory. (This is a nice follow-up from the proto-imperialism of The Wrong Jedi and a perfect lead-in to ROTS.)

Regarding the Lost One’s episodes: they were surprisingly entertaining. The art design and set pieces were wonderfully “out there.” At times, it feels like more thought and creativity goes into one second of this show’s screen time then some entire movies.

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Told you so. ;)


My bad. I could have sworn it was the Mouse.

Does anyone have a favorite scene from these 13 episodes? Mine is the courtyard gathering with Jedi Dooku, Qui-gon, and the others. I thought it was a nice surprise.

I’ve seen others mention the use of Yoda’s theme on Dagobah as a highlight. For whatever reason, the quote of Qui-gon’s theme affected me more.

With The Unknown, I’m not sure why Kiner employed Vampire Hunters from Bram Stoker’s Dracula. It’s the second time he’s used this piece on the series. He must be really fond of it.


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Sidious’ knowledge is sort-of like the cave on Dagobah. The Priestess explains that the temple on Morband is one of those weird places in the galaxy where normal rules don’t apply.

Concerning ghosts: The Sith are materialists. To them, all the good stuff happens when you have a corporeal existence. In turn, they probably aren't interested in playing around in the Living Force as ethereal sprites.

That's true, but upon further viewing (of the 720p version, thanks darthpsychotic!), the undead Sith Warriors say "They will know you are here. We will tell them. You will die!" (it's hard to hear some of the lines, but this got clearer in the HD version). Then they slam into him, Dooku wakes up from his meditation and Sidious orders him back to Coruscant for their experiment. So there really is some metaphysical aspect involved to alert the CW-era Sith like that. Unlike the Light Side ghosts, undead Sith seem stuck where they are, which is also analogous to some rl ghost mythology. They're so materialistic, their ghosts can't leave their graveyards or join the Cosmic Force, or whatever. Works for me. :)


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E_CHU_TA! wrote:
My bad. I could have sworn it was the Mouse.


For good or bad, the Mouse doesn't care about such details. And even within Lucasfilm, I doubt they would make minor creative changes like this without a proper reason. Lucas did, but he's the one who created the sandbox.

E_CHU_TA! wrote:
Does anyone have a favorite scene from these 13 episodes? Mine is the courtyard gathering with Jedi Dooku, Qui-gon, and the others. I thought it was a nice surprise.


That was good scene. Even though it was a "dream" instead of a flashback, it was nice to see a benevolent Dooku.


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Chronological order of the entire series:

216
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Source: Leeland Chee's twitter


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Thanks Double.


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E_CHU_TA! wrote:
I’ve been expecting Fives to die ever since I found out he was a member of “Domino” squad. GL isn’t subtle with his symbolism sometimes. As expected, all five members “fell” by the end of the series.


I'm wrong again. Echo is alive. :monocle:

VT-16 wrote:
Unlike the Light Side ghosts, undead Sith seem stuck where they are, which is also analogous to some (GL) ghost mythology. They're so materialistic, their ghosts can't leave their graveyards or join the Cosmic Force, or whatever. Works for me. :)


Upon second thought, there may be a reason for Sith to become ghosts. For the Jedi, they can continue to teach while a part of the Living Force. Since the Sith are selfish, there’s no appeal with this aspect for them. However, Qui-gon was able to manipulate the Force while Yoda was mediating. So, there may be some appeal for the Sith in this regard. They could still exert some type of influence over the physical world as ghosts.

GL’s explanation doesn’t invoke a morality on the existence of Force Ghosts. It’s not really a form of redemption as it simply requires practice to achieve. Moreover, there is no evidence of ultimate heaven or hell.

If the Sith are simply stuck in their grave is that a true punishment for their misdeeds? Is it meant to be a form of castigation by GL or is he simply taking the moral context out of the Star Wars afterlife? After watching the Yoda arc, I thought that all questions were resolved. Now, I’m back to wondering. I like that.

Maybe you were right,[b[VT-16[/b]? If the Sith do the same meditative exercises as the Yoda, can they also retain their identities in the Living Force?


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Upon second thought, there may be a reason for Sith to become ghosts. For the Jedi, they can continue to teach while a part of the Living Force. Since the Sith are selfish, there’s no appeal with this aspect for them. However, Qui-gon was able to manipulate the Force while Yoda was mediating. So, there may be some appeal for the Sith in this regard. They could still exert some type of influence over the physical world as ghosts.

GL’s explanation doesn’t invoke a morality on the existence of Force Ghosts. It’s not really a form of redemption as it simply requires practice to achieve. Moreover, there is no evidence of ultimate heaven or hell.

If the Sith are simply stuck in their grave is that a true punishment for their misdeeds? Is it meant to be a form of castigation by GL or is he simply taking the moral context out of the Star Wars afterlife? After watching the Yoda arc, I thought that all questions were resolved. Now, I’m back to wondering. I like that.
I think GL doesn't quite know what to make of Sith ghosts.
First he had the ROTS novel be written so that Qui-Gon says the Sith can't live on after death since it requires a state of selflessness.
Then he planned to have Bane and Revan appear as Sith ghosts on Mortis until this scene was cut.
Then he supervises this latest arc, where the Sith ghosts send a message to the living Sith that a Jedi is trespassing on Korriban.

Yoda claiming Darth Bane's ghost is an illusion, seems mostly effective as a deterrent to his influence, as both he and the Sith Warriors in the previous scene gain power from the fear they invoke in observers. I think the Warriors say as much, but the audio is so muddled in that scene (or it's my speakers fault). Plus, the previous arc had Mace Windu claim Talzin's powers are just illusions, yet he still duels with her "illusionary" sword?

So ultimately, darksider ghosts need an external power source to keep going, lightsider ghosts can work on their own due to being intact inside the Cosmic Force???

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Maybe you were right,[b[VT-16[/b]? If the Sith do the same meditative exercises as the Yoda, can they also retain their identities in the Living Force?
Yeah, I think there's a misconception, especially from the Jedi POV, that the Sith are far removed in spiritual matters. We often see them meditating, like the Jedi, and they have metaphysical abilities (like the magic blood ritual) and seem to live in spartan quarters for the most part. Their spirituality is just more focused on dominating the Force and their surroundings.


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Those aren't ghosts though, they are simply specters (residual dark power). Yoda makes Bane disappear because he knows he doesn't exist anymore, and thus can't affect him. The same can't be said about the Jedi "ghosts" where they can interact and make an impact on the current events even after death.


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Those aren't ghosts though, they are simply specters (residual dark power). Yoda makes Bane disappear because he knows he doesn't exist anymore, and thus can't affect him. The same can't be said about the Jedi "ghosts" where they can interact and make an impact on the current events even after death.
Technically, those Sith specters did interact with the living, since they alerted Sidious and Dooku to Yoda's presence on Korriban/Moraband. According to the ep guide, them slamming into him, created "reverberations through the Force".

But, yeah, I see what you mean, the Force ghosts can interact directly rather than using intermediaries.


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Those aren't ghosts though, they are simply specters (residual dark power). Yoda makes Bane disappear because he knows he doesn't exist anymore, and thus can't affect him. The same can't be said about the Jedi "ghosts" where they can interact and make an impact on the current events even after death.
Technically, those Sith specters did interact with the living, since they alerted Sidious and Dooku to Yoda's presence on Korriban/Moraband.


Good point. According to the episode guide:

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Yoda arrives at the opening of the largest Sith temple as the sun begins to fall. A giant serpent, speaking in a sibilant voice, strikes but Yoda defends himself with the Force. From the shadows emerge the specter of undead Sith warriors that encircle Yoda, warning him that nothingness awaits after death. The spectral images slam into Yoda, leaving repercussions in the Force, but soon all is still. (...)

Yoda enters the largest of the Sith temples, illuminating his path with his lightsaber. At the end of a dark corridor is a cavernous chamber, at the center of which is the tomb of Darth Bane. A giant, smoldering specter of Bane, founder of the Sith rule of two, emerges from the sarcophagus and challenges Yoda. Bane wonders if Yoda has come to be his apprentice. Yoda resists reacting to the fiery image, declaring it to be nothing but an illusion.

Deprived of the power of fear and intimidation
, Bane disappates.


It seems that these specters don't have a consciousness and are tied to that place because it's strong with the dark side, but can "warn" to current Sith Lords through the Force.


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I'd like it if their behavior indicates sentience, to line up with comics/books/games where they have actual roles. The episode also worded their quote differently, telling Yoda that "Nothing exists after death for you, Jedi". Paraphrasing here. It would line up with their sense of superiority.

Hopefully, when questioned, Filoni will be diplomatic about the answer, like he usually is when dealing with EU vs. Lucas stuff.

They sure were quick to point out Moraband = Korriban, though. :p


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I don't know if it's been mentioned here, but i was surprised and excited when i learned that ...

[spoil]Mark Hamil did the voice of Darth Bane's ghost[/spoil]

For me, along with Liam Neeson's voice, was the cheery on top! :chewbacca:


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So, if you have to study and be pure of spirit and all that to be a force ghost, how come does Anakin become a force ghost at the end of ROTJ? When did he study, and get pure and et al? I mean, maaaaybe he was "purified" when Luke helped him to finally make the right choice (as if one good deed redeems a lifetime of terror, but I digress) still, how did he learn the force ghost trick if it is so tricky? This is confusing. Anybody?


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So, if you have to study and be pure of spirit and all that to be a force ghost, how come does Anakin become a force ghost at the end of ROTJ?


He was the Chosen One, created by midi-chlorians.


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Per the Annotated Screenplays, Vader was to be saved by ghost Kenobi in a prior draft of Return of the Jedi:

[hr]“Vader and Luke are on their way to the throne room .... suddenly Ben appears in their path .... Ben explains that he has come to save him, that the Emperor wants to destroy him. If Vader becomes one with the dark side of the Force, he will lose all identify. If he turns to the good side, he will pass through the Netherworld and Ben will rescue him before he becomes one with the Force.”[hr]


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He basically reaches a certain point of enlightenment and it ties into Qui-Gon and what Yoda talks about in Revenge of the Sith. It makes all those things come together. And then when you look at it, and you hear what he says at the end of this arc versus what he was saying at the beginning, you realize he’s come to a different understanding. In Empire he says things like, “Wars not make one great.” Well, he fought a war. You have to fight through the war, and you have to get through that, and see other people that do that, to have any understanding of that truth. So he can’t be that way [during The Clone Wars]. “A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense. Never attack.” Well, the Clone Wars-era Jedi don’t seem to think that way. Maybe that was a long-lost governing principle, but they’re certainly not behaving that way in the Clone War. So you understand that, fundamentally, what a Jedi is during the Clone Wars and the prequel era is different than what Yoda, Qui-Gon, and eventually, Obi-Wan, understand is the truth of being completely selfless. Certain things in life you cannot defeat through conflict. You can only defeat them through being selfless and giving of yourself for others. Inspiration, enlightenment, teaching. I mean, that’s all in The Empire Strikes Back.


Filoni Interview on the Yoda arc


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In-depth IGN interview with Dave Filoni about season 6.


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[Laughs] Yeah, exactly. What does it mean that Rex is basically the only clone that hears what pretty much the truth is, and how would that affect his future? I would posit that it affects his future greatly. So, you know, you'll just have to wait and see what that means. [Laughs] It used to be great because I could mess with you like this, and we had a whole season coming next year, but that's not the case now. But we have other exciting Star Wars content coming, so, you know…


So...Rex to show up in Rebels?


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I see Rex running an A-Team-esque squad during Imperial times. It would be ironic and cool if Cody was tasked with tracking him down.


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He could go out and find some of his "deserter" brothers....the ones that were defective and didn't want to fight.


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