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Post Posted: February 5th 2018 8:44 am
 
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Looks fun, but I still can't wrap my brain around someone other than Ford playing Solo:


As usual, I won't pass judgement until after I've seen it.


Post Posted: February 5th 2018 10:32 am
 
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The tone seems to strike a nice balance of fun without spilling over into the goofy. Completely appropriate for this film.


Post Posted: February 5th 2018 3:50 pm
 
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I have a baaad feeling about this ...

Still ranting about why not cast Anthony Ingruber as Han ... the guy can act, and has more charisma than this guy

Trailer does not have the Star Wars feel to it, like Rogue one did

Let's see how this blows

Not optimistic, guys ...


Post Posted: February 5th 2018 4:18 pm
 

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Very disappointed tbh, this geezer looks and sounds nothing like Ford.

Where as this guy does https://youtu.be/bba_wPdLxp4

What a fucking cock up !


Post Posted: February 5th 2018 5:58 pm
 

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I like this trailer. Gives me hope Ron Howard can save Solo from being bad. Him combined with Lawrence Kasdan and with the cinematography of Bradford Young gives me hope this movie can stand on its own and be good enough.


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The casting of Han is going to be a point of contention, for a lot of hardcore Star Wars fans.
What is this fascination modern filmmakers have, when it comes to color grading and presenting everything in fucking greyscale?


Post Posted: February 5th 2018 7:27 pm
 

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Mike_Droideka wrote:
The casting of Han is going to be a point of contention, for a lot of hardcore Star Wars fans.
What is this fascination modern filmmakers have, when it comes to color grading and presenting everything in fucking greyscale?


Well, this is a different kind of Star Wars movie, like Rogue One, so I think that the cinematography helps it stand out.


Post Posted: February 5th 2018 9:43 pm
 

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After the carefully crafted and deliberate disaster of The Last Jedi, I have ZERO plans on ever going to see anything Star Wars related. Well, sort of... The only exception I can think of is the Obi-Wan film, and well, "one more" exception, a Boba Fett film if it's handled like a Sergio Leone spaghetti western. But other than those two dim possibilities, not a penny from me for any Star Wars products.

Look up my previous posts. Whenever a new Star Wars trailer appeared I showed them as promptly as possible to my kids. Not last night and not today, nor any day. This is a hisotric First for my family. If they stumble across the trailer and want me to watch it with them, I will, but I'm not going to try and entice them anymore with anything Star Wars.

And from canvassing others, I am by far not alone in this attitude. Johnson/Kennedy/Abrams/Hidalgo have permanently burned a lot of bridges, I hope that they enjoy the scent of the char and the miles-tall columns of smoke. Smoke is a hard commodity to collect to fatten one's wallet with. I highly doubt that my kids will grow up to be lifetime supporters of this franchise either.

Oh well. Time to finally grow up.

Thank you Disney for waking me up, and your well earned reward is zilch from me and my kin.


Post Posted: February 5th 2018 10:23 pm
 
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Couldn't get past that first line without wearing my tin foil hat.


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Earwax wrote:
Very disappointed tbh, this geezer looks and sounds nothing like Ford.

Where as this guy does https://youtu.be/bba_wPdLxp4

What a fucking cock up !


I wonder what the story is behind Ingrubers audition. I have heard that he auditioned and it didn't go well.
I had also heard from someone else that he never even got to audition. He seemed to be perfect for the role.


Post Posted: February 6th 2018 7:22 am
 
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I'm glad that Ehrenreich isn't trying to do a Ford impression. There will only be one Ford. Trying to cast an authenticate younger Ford is impossible. Either you don't do the movie or you cast the best actor you can find for the part. Hopefully, Ehrenreich can carry the movie on his own.

If the end product is good, then the movie's been worth making. Kasdan's and Howard's involvement give me a lot of hope for a return to more traditional Star Wars fun.


Post Posted: February 6th 2018 10:11 am
 
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E_CHU_TA! wrote:
I'm glad that Ehrenreich isn't trying to do a Ford impression. There will only be one Ford. Trying to cast an authenticate younger Ford is impossible. Either you don't do the movie or you cast the best actor you can find for the part. Hopefully, Ehrenreich can carry the movie on his own.


If the trailer is any indication, he can't. His acting truly looks really subpar. The voice acting at the start is cringeworthy. In the first part ("mind of my own"), his inflection and emphasis is all wrong. In the next line, he's completely flat. He looks uncomfortable in the scene with Clarke. His acting in the Falcon was really bad, and I'm worried that since this was his first big budget film, he's not used to acting in a vacuum of greenscreen, or having to ADR the bulk of a film.

The only hope is that he can bring some life to the character in ADR. But again, I do not have my hopes up.

As for doing a Ford impersonation - I'm not sure I agree. Han Solo is not intrinsically a unique or especially interesting character. He's an archetype, and what made him work is Harrison Ford. Almost 100% of the credit for Han Solo's success as a character should go to Harrison Ford. So I'm not sure I see the point of the film to begin, but if you're going to do it, the actor really needs to study Ford and mimic his mannerisms, delivery, cadence, and try to bring his charisma. Because that is the character. Otherwise you might as well have the guy be Starlord or any one of the 8 million similar characters that have been created before or since.


Post Posted: February 7th 2018 8:32 pm
 
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Just for the sake of argument watch this clip from the movie Age of Adeleine, where Ingruber plays a young Harrison Ford's character in the film.

IDK what went wrong in this guy's audition, but he nailed it in this movie.



Post Posted: February 7th 2018 10:15 pm
 
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Ingruber would have been distracting. The movie then becomes about this unique, uncanny impersonation of Ford than the character of Solo.


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The_Somnambulist wrote:
Ingruber would have been distracting. The movie then becomes about this unique, uncanny impersonation of Ford than the character of Solo.


I absolutely disagree... What we have is a situation that is exactly the opposite. In that trailer i'm thinking 'WTF that's not Han Solo' He looks and sounds nothing like, that's distracting.

Disney/Lucasfilm have made a right royal cock up IMO .. Han doesn't say 'Get ready' FFS ! he says 'Punch it'

The delivery of 'I thought we were in trouble there for a second, but it's fun, we're fine' again another WTF moment that didn't hold any weight. It had no conviction, weak delivery of a line that i would not have expected Solo to say.


Post Posted: February 8th 2018 7:08 am
 
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I'm kind of stuck in the middle. There is more to acting than just impersonating, but at the same time, the Ford impersonator guy would have perfectly nailed the role, note for note.

I will once again attempt to reserve judgement for when I actually see this thing.


Post Posted: February 8th 2018 10:06 am
 

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I find it baffling that people are actually arguing in favour of casting an actor who in almost no-way resembles or sounds like the established character he is supposed to play. The arguments for the casting also seem pretty disengenuous too - was it too distracting to cast Ewan as Obi-Wan? Of course not.

I get that people are trying to remain optimistic for this movie, but it comes off as being an apologist for Disney and Lucasfilm.

Nothing i've seen or heard of this film, including the new trailer, fills me with any confidence for it, but like Kyle above i've been sufficiently burned by TLJ that I don't have any plans to see this in the theatre, so I guess i'm just as bad on the opposite end of the spectrum. I'll stop throwing stones in my glass house now.


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I feel like Solo should show if Alden Ehrenreich nails the ATTITUDE of young Han Solo. Not the look. Not the Harrison Ford impersonation. But, the attitude. That's how Solo can work.


Post Posted: February 8th 2018 11:39 pm
 
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Honestly, this is the Star Wars movie that nobody wanted so am I really going to give a shit who plays Han Solo? Harrison Ford is Han Solo. Whoever they picked was never going to measure up to a cinematic legend.

If it works, hurray, if not whatever. I just hope I don't hate Han Solo, the character, after seeing it.


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From CoGro:
I just hope I don't hate Han Solo, the character, after seeing it.

When Johnson/Kennedy/Abrams/Hidalgo worked together to meticulously orchestrate the utter destruction of Luke Skywalker's character ("I'll kill my nephew I helped raise, but no way will I harm the father I only knew as a sociopath butcher and mass enslaver..."), they didn't cause me to hate the character of Luke Skywalker. In my mind and heart, his spirit is still well alive, relieved that his selflessness and sacrifice saved his father's soul, as he helped bring a well deserved and fitting end to the Empire. His nerve wracking, arduous training and hard work studying under the last two Jedi Masters, was not for nought. In spite of his understandable and reasonable doubts, fears and temptations, he went on to EARN these lofty achievements. He even solidly and unhesitatingly stood up against his Masters, who never taught him to Save. If one wants The Very Definition of a real hero, he IS it.

The quad-headed monster can never take that away from me. Nor blemish it.

If hate there be, the only target worthy of such aggression are those Pulling The Strings behind the curtain.

Han will always be the deeply flawed character who could dig deep down to muster Redemption.

Untouchable.
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Post Posted: February 15th 2018 9:28 am
 
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Mike_Droideka wrote:
What is this fascination modern filmmakers have, when it comes to color grading and presenting everything in fucking greyscale?


Right? I am so over this. At least the prequels were bright and vibrant, with wide cityscapes and establishing shots packed with detail. Now everything is dull, drab, monochrome and blurry. Compare Luke's fall into the pit to Han's fall. Han falls into blurry nothing, Luke's chasm had immense detail. The same can be said for most of the locations and especially the action shots in modern movies.

I suppose it saves money on special effects if they are all monochrome and blurry. And it's all about the effects, right George? Oh ... wait ...


Post Posted: February 15th 2018 11:25 am
 
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I can't imagine it's cheaper to make things look one way as opposed to another. It's a creative choice, whether we like the final result or not.


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