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In the OT, Williams wrote character themes (much in the vein of Prokovief's Peter and the Wolf) where everyone and almost everything had it own theme, so when the moment came to remember something or to underscore the emotion, the music theme cued you in the weight of the moment.

Now for the PT, it seems to me that Lucas urged Williams to only write generic action adventure riffs rather than themes to define a character (which I'm sure we all agree, the characters coulda used help in being more defined!) And instead of at least three new major themes written for each film like in the OT, now only one or two major themes were written per PT movie (Anakin's theme, Duel of the Fates - Across the Stars - Battle of the Heroes). Everything else is either little motifs (Battle Droid March, Gen Greivous) or innocuous action cues.

That one PT cue in particular... the "rousing" action cue used during:
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-When Yoda comes to the rescue with the Clone Troopers in the Arena...
-When Greivous's ship starts falling back to Coursant making Anakin, Obi-Wan & Palpatine slide in the elevator shaft...
is SO overused it drives me mad!

Reprising musical material on the musical stage or on film is meant to reflect on an established idea, character or emotion. Case in point, the aborted end credit track in CLONES on the OST, at the very end, a beautiful sorrowful solo horn plays a quote of Anakin's theme, showing us that the good person who was Anakin was slipping away. But Lucas didn't think we needed that! He lazily tracks previous cues because he can't stop his last minute fiddling. Cues, which have nothing to do with the content of what's on screen, are used just because it's an "rousing action piece".

I wonder if he keeps changes his clothes over and over again just before he goes out...?


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I would've assumed they would've cut in "Duel of the Fates" into the ORIGINAL version of the Dooku vs. Anakin duel (which was rumoured to be alot longer than what was show in the final cut) but I guess, because that portion of the movie was sliced up to nothing - then the yoda thing got dropped in...it was a case of "well we have to have it put in there, lets slap it in...er....this montage scene"

I guess it could represent Anakin's brooding anger (getting ready to f-up the Sandpeople) but because the actual "killing" wasn't shown or cut out, then it's pretty pointless...

...some nice transitional or travel music could've been cut in there just fine, and maybe cut the Anakin v Dooku duel with a tad more pace...and pop duel of the fates in there....

Who knows what they were thinking.

As has been previously mentioned, AOTC is a big mess of a botched score opportunity....


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It's prolly because the AOTC Duel/s have absolutely no climax....they build and build and build until Yoda turns up, then it's all comicy-saber-duelling then Dooku escapes and you're left with a "what the?" at the end of it...(because after a 3rd of 4th viewing, the whole "yoda is fighting with a lightsaber" OMG!!!!11111oneONE! has worn off...)

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As a side note, the two "Yoda" duels both end on sour notes...with neither participant "winning" or "ending" the duel. Dooku runs off in the AOTC duel, then Yoda runs off in the ROTS duel. It seems the only guy who can Finish a saber fight, is either Obi-Wan or Anakin. Luke can't "win" one without quitting or running away...the only dude who actually "wins" a duel, is Obi-Wan in ROTS....


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