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I thought I posted this question here, maybe I posted it somewhere else, I don't remember, but I assume that if someone captured this footage at Comic Con we would have it uploaded here by now, right?


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That's way too much dialogue, Jonny Boy

That scene isn't supposed to be exposition, it's supposed to be an emotional reflection. People know by then why the Jedi failed, what's important is how Yoda and Obi-wan will be able to pass on their knowledge after they've died.

The key to great writing is being concise. The scene needed to accomplish the following things:

- How Jedi are able to retain themselves after death
- Establish Yoda's motivation from then on
- Tie up the 'eternal life' plot device
- Indirectly set up how the dark side can never win and how Anakin is able to retain himself

As the scene was written, and rewritten, it did that. There's a few lines that can be rearranged and some scrapped, but it works fine. You never know how the script will appear on screen, and this is something that could have been, and god willing WILL be, great.

There doesn't need to be anything comparing Yoda to the Sith, just an explanation about why the dark side can never acheive eternal life because they have no compassion. That fact alone makes the saga 10 times better.

In my world it would go:

A) Yoda feels he has failed, Qui-Gon tries to comfort him
B) Yoda questions his power, Qui-Gon reassures him there will be another time.
C) Qui-Gon reveals that the secret of eternal life is compassion, not greed and that the dark side can never attain this power
D) Yoda, shocked by the awesome power he has been given a chance to learn, becomes Qui-Gon's apprentice


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Actually CoGro, I completley agree with all of your points. The scene, as written, accomplishes what it needs to. The only problem I had was that, to me, tha scene needed to show a side of Yoda that would have never been seen before. I also felt it should be a little more personal. The feeling I get when i read the scene is "awkward". I don't really know why. Maybe I just heard so much about the scene before I read it that my expectations were different. Anyway, I know its overlong. I chose to do it as though it were a re-write of the passage in the novel, not an actual scene in the film.

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Here is another rewrite.

YODA

My failure, this was.
Responsible, I am, for this tragedy.

QUI-GON

You cannot blame yourself, my old friend.

YODA

Too old, I was. Too rigid. Changed, the Galaxy has. Changed, we have not. A fool I've been, blinded by age, and experience.

After a brief pause, Yoda speaks just one phrase, painfully.

YODA

How to prepare for the past, experience taught me. Prepared for the present, I was not. To certain of the future, my arrogance made me.

A single tear begins to form in Yoda's eye.

QUI-GON

Changing the Jedi Order, allowing the code to evolve, would have taken centuries.

YODA

Centuries, I had, and the time, I did not take. Last of the ancient ways, was I, and continued with them, I did. So certain, I was, believing that defeat the enemies of the Republic, I could, as I have these long years. Forgot I did, how to learn, and to listen, and to watch.

QUI-GON

No one can see through the darkness when the light is shrouded. If anyone is to be blamed, it is I. Darkness was the shadow that followed Anakin Skywalker, and I could not see it.

YODA

Nor did I, even as shroud the Jedi order, it did. An infinite mystery is the force, and much to learn, there still is.

QUI-GON

And you will have time to learn.

YODA

Infinite knowledge... Infinite time, does it not require?

QUI-GON

I can teach you a power far beyond infinity, and closer than the world around you. I can help you to become one with the force in spirit, and in consciousness. To be a part of the living force long after your body has failed you.

YODA

Eternal life... The goal of the Sith, is it not?

QUI-GON

But the Sith can never have it. It comes only from the release of self, not the exaltation of self. It comes through compassion, not greed. It is a gift to be earned, not a treasure to be plundered.

YODA

A power greater than any, that would be, to be able to join the force, yet influence still to have...

QUI-GON

It is a gift you have earned, my old friend, and yours to learn, if you wish it.

YODA

A very great Jedi Master, you are, and always have been, Qui-Gon Jinn.
Unable to see it I was.

The single tear in Yoda's eye slides slowly down his mottled green face, and with it comes an expression of extreme sorrow, an expression not seen on the great warrior's face for 800 years. Then as suddenly as it appeared, it is replaced by a look of renewed determination and hope.

Yoda stands, puts his hands together, and bows, a traditional Jedi showing of respect.

YODA

Your apprentice, I greatfully become.


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DISCLAIMER: The below info comes from a Nightly.net member who claims to have gotten it from a magazine. It was reposted at TheForce.net's ROTS DVD thread.

On The Episode III Bonus Disk:

* Eight exclusive deleted scenes with introductions: The Fuel Tank, Shaking Grievous, Palpatine's Efforts, Shaak Ti's Destiny, Birth of a Rebellion, Yoda's Escape from Kashyyyk (extended), an Old Friend, the Far Planet of Dagobah, a Deathly Building (extended)

* "To the Dark Side" (85 min.): all-new full-length documentary about the production of the last Star Wars episode.

* "The Bridge of the Saga": Taking the last pieces to the puzzle.

* "Brother Vs. Brother" The hard job to get the amazing final duel.

* Two featurettes examining the Anakin's destiny and the special effects.

* Web documentaries

* Exclusive production photos

* One-sheet posters

* International outdoor campaign

* Trailers and TV spots

* "This is not the end of Star Wars": About the future of the Saga.

* ILM visual effects breakdown montage

* Exclusive DVD-ROM content

This info is not confirmed, so don't give me hell if it's not true. :)


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