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So why does he run?

I think because the clonetroopers are coming in addition to Sidious still pursuing him.


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Maybe he realizes he couldn't win.


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It says Yoda starts off in the basement. Then he escapes and cuts through the floors.

Is he going up through the floors or down through them?


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Sounds like down through them, judging from the whole jumping part at the end.


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Very Nice

Though This Floor Thing Is Hurting My Brain.. Going Down Through Basement.. Ahh Yeah :|


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He's coming down through the overhanging part:



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It's all coming together now.

I like Bail zipping around in his speeder, not just standing around stiffly talking.


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Cutting through floors :D


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The problem with this is there is no reason for Palpatine to think that Yoda is dead.

It seems silly to kill the Jedi while letting the most powerful one simply escape without continuing to pursue him until he is found...and killed.


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is yoda, running for his life, going to look like the groundhog that was in caddyshack running through his holes?



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The problem with this is there is no reason for Palpatine to think that Yoda is dead.

That's not a problem.

...while letting the most powerful one simply escape without continuing to pursue him until he is found...and killed.

No one said Palpatine isn't doing that.


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If Palpatine doesn´t think he´s dead by the end of ROTS, the years inbetween that and ANH will be long enough to make him believe Yoda´s either dead of old age or that he could simply kick his ass again, should the situation arise.


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I love it. Well love is a strong word, but i like it. Its good. Im not a "Yoda rocks" kinda guy, or a "Palps is a badass" guy either, im a R2 fan, myself, and i always thought the "Palps kicking Yodas Ass" was a pipe dream i doubted Lucas would make either one of his good and bad mofo characters seem weak. This proves my doubts, for Yoda emerges looking not weak, because there was no winning on account of The Emporer having a crap load of mind controlled Clone Troopers on there way to help him, but does look somewhat beaten. And the Emperor doesnt look super badass because he needs the troopers to help, or else why call them. If the tables were turned and Yoda had a team of Clone Troopers under his mind control i bet Palps would run too. In my eyes they both emerge somewhat equal in this fight, which is EXACTLY what i figured would happen. Great Stuff!

As for why doesnt Palps go after him. How do we know that Palps knows Yoda was rescued. There could be a scene where we see clone troopers peering down Yodas hole into the coruscant air and reporting that Yoda couldnt have survived the fall, even as a master jedi. Its not like everything the Emporer sees with the darkside is true so its not like his foresight would help him with that.


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Prove it. Yoda's name is never mentioned by Palpatine or Vader in the OT.

Just because no screen time is spent on the issue doesn't mean Palpatine is not pursuing Yoda (or any other Jedi) anymore. We don't know what Palpatine is doing about it because it's not mentioned.

It's very silly on Palpatine's part to assume anything.

By your own standards, you can't prove he's assumed anything, since it is not mentioned on screen. You are making stuff up just to bitch about it.

You'd think Palpatine and Vader would be interested in all of the force-sensitive infants out there, right? But no screen time is spent on this issue. That's because it's a movie and not every possible issue can be covered.

If Yoda is gone, there's no one to train Luke.

Palpatine isn't watching the movie. He doesn't know about those events.


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No. If there is no one to train them, I wouldn't care if there were billions of them. Neither would he.

Wrong. Beings with force senstivity grow up to become renegades and usually dark Jedi. Since you're discussions are taking place outside of the scope of the established screenplays, I am invoking expanded universe now.

Billions of dark jedi = big pain in the ass to usurp power and enter the ranks of Sith.


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This thread has taken a turn toward the absurd.

I'm never outside the screenplays.

And EU is about as bad as it gets.

Palpatine needs to think Yoda is dead by the end of ROTS. It's really that simple.


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You're right, Palpatine does need to think Yoda is dead at the end of ROTS. To avoid that issue would be a huge plot hole.

Also, we need to see Admiral Ackbar interact with Mon Mothma. If that doesn't go down, then what, I assume they just hooked up off screen and built an important part of the rebellion? Bollocks you say.

Another issue, that's been fucking with my head lately -- alot....

How the fuck does Owen know that Obi-Wan is a "wizard"? Remember the line from ANH -- "That wizard's just a crazy old man"?

If Obi-Wan doesn't do some kind of force-induced parlor trick in front of Owen at the end of ROTS, then I ain't buying into Lucas' fucking bullshit --- again.

And we sure as fuck better get a definitive reason as to why there is a dark cave on Dagobah. If it were up to me, I would spend 20 minutes of screen time showing Yoda dueling an outcast dark jedi once he arrives on Dagobah. What would be breasts is if once Yoda kills him, he impersonates his voice over a comlink and says to Palpatine, "Yoda is dead, your majesty." The Emperor, of course only needing to think that Yoda is dead (instead of having a corpse to incinerate just to be 100% certain) would easily buy it, and all our little plot holes could be tidied up in one fell swoop.

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Yeah... But I've always thought the "Jedi" were defeated. Strength in numbers drove Yoda into hiding, but to have him specifically beaten is a bit saddening. You know the best of the 2... Good Vs Evil and evil comes out on top...


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I don't think Ben and Yoda planned on Luke turning Vader. I think they hoped to train a Jedi who could confront and defeat Vader.

LUKE
I can't do it, Ben. I can't kill my own father.

BEN
Then the Emperor has already won. You were our last hope.

Luke charts his own path, however. He chooses not to fight. He tries to appeal to the good in Vader. It is this personal appeal that finally cracks the shell, not some lightsabre blow to the head thrown by a well-trained master Jedi. Luke essentially didn't need to be trained as a Jedi at all for this to go down. Luke's love for his father and a father's love for his son are what did the trick.

Of course, If Yoda and Obi-Wan and the people of Naboo had just went to Watto and paid for Shmi's freedom, none of this would have happened to begin with.


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Some of Terns recent spoilers suggest Yoda goes to Dagobah to "unlearn". I remember Luke saying that his X-Wing was picking up huge life readings from Dagobah before he landed,p'raps Yoda picked dagobah to get more in touch with Qui Gons Living Force.

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Some of Terns recent spoilers suggest Yoda goes to Dagobah to "unlearn". I remember Luke saying that his X-Wing was picking up huge life readings from Dagobah before he landed,p'raps Yoda picked dagobah to get more in touch with Qui Gons Living Force.

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Some of Terns recent spoilers suggest Yoda goes to Dagobah to "unlearn". I remember Luke saying that his X-Wing was picking up huge life readings from Dagobah before he landed,p'raps Yoda picked dagobah to get more in touch with Qui Gons Living Force.

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now ive never seen a triple post before...

yeah yoda going to dogabah to unlearn what he has learned is being discussed in the laters spoiler thread more deeply hopefully :)


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The whole thing with Qui-Gon and this duel with the Emperor changes are view of Yoda in the OT totally.

The unlearning what he had learned thing is obviously a big one... Yoda has put himself on Dagobah NOT to escape from Sidious nessecarily, but mainly to relearn the force.

And then, of course, Luke disregarding Yoda's views and going off to confront Vader in ESB is even bigger... because Yoda doesn't want LUke to go and do what Yoda did in trying to kill Sidious.

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