Pearl Harbor was not a Surprise Attack

[ryguy]

i'm serious. read a book called "Day Of Deceit" by Robert B. Stinnet. He spent twenty years researching it, and has lots of evidence to back up what he says. Here's some proof : we cracked Japan's codes in 1940, we tracked the tankers and fleet before they attacked Pearl Harbor, we monitored Japanese spies on Hawaii and intercepted what they transmitted to Tokyo, the Navy sunk a Japanese midget sub two hours before the attack happened on December 7, FDR provoked Japan into attacking the U.S. to draw the U.S. into WWII to stop Hitler from taking over Europe b/c if hitler got Europe the U.S. was next. ask me any questions and ill try to answer them

[ryguy]

right...

[ryguy]

right...

[ryguy]

Here's an intercepted message from Admiral Yamamoto who led the fleet to attack Pearl Harbor, dated November 18, 1941: "THE TASK FORCE, KEEPING ITS MOVEMENTS STRICTLY SECRET AND MAINTAIN CLOSE GUARD AGAINST SUBMARINES AND AIRCRAFT, SHALL ADVANCE INTO HAWAIIAN WATERS, AND UPON THE VERY OPENING OF HOSTILITIES SHALL ATTACK THE MAIN FORCE OF THE UNITED STATES FLEET IN HAWAII AND DEAL IT A MORTAL BLOW. THE FIRST AIR RAID IS PLANNED FOR THE DAWN OF X-DAY. EXACT DATE TO GIVEN BY LATER ORDER. UPON COMPLETION OF THE AIR RAID, THE TASK FORCE… SHALL SPEEDILY LEAVE THE ENEMY WATERS AND THEN RETURN TO JAPAN.

[ryguy]

all the messages that were intercepted were decoded and read in less than a day

[ryguy]

Not fixed... there's a photo-copied image of it in the book. i just shortened it a bit b/c it's in my english paper i wrote a week ago (5 days and im done with high school)

[ryguy]

the master, of course

[ryguy]

no problem

[ryguy]

i hope you're joking. that was a disney-romance movie, the only accurate thing was that Japan attacked P.H. on December 7, 1941

and kale, i didn't realize that

[ryguy]

a superfriend?

[ryguy]

hollywood is not "never wrong" see the movie about the kennedy assassination starring Kevin Costner

[ryguy]

im not going to respond to that statement... oops, i did

[ryguy]

that movie is filled with so many mistakes. the bullet trajectory thing was wrong, the bullet didnt hang in midair. the movie said the seats with kennedy and the guy next to him were on the same level. they were actually on different elevations, and one was further ahead of Kennedy's

[ryguy]

no, there was a 20/20 special on it with Peter Jennings hosting, they debunked all the consiracy theories on the show. there was one gunman, he acted alone, and it is possible to fire 3 shots in the timeframe, they showed an 85-yearl old man do it quicker than Oswald did

[ryguy]

of course not. people say that he couldnt fire 3 shots in the timeframe it all happened. the show had an 85 year-old man do it faster than Oswald, which helps show that it is possible for one person to fire all three shots

[ryguy]

listen, superfriend. they showed an 85 year-old man do something faster than a 20-something year-old, which disproves the fact that some people think it was impossible for Oswald to fire 3 shots using that style of rifle.

[ryguy]

Oswald was around guns for a long time. he was in the army, and was an excellant shot, especially in the range that Kennedy was from the window where Oswald shot him

[ryguy]

yes. exactly

[ryguy]

i heartily concur. Gentlemen?

[ryguy]

they showed him because some people thought it wasn't humanly possible to shoot that type of gun in the timeframe that the shots were fired in, which would mean there was more than one gunner, but the old man proved them wrong.

[Insert Username]

So it's not common knowledge in America that the Government allowed the fleet at Pearl Harbour to be attacked as an excuse to enter the war?

Too funny!

[Ayatollah Krispies]

So it's not common knowledge in America that the Government allowed the fleet at Pearl Harbour to be attacked as an excuse to enter the war?

Dunno about "common" knowledge, but the suspicion was certainly in circulation long before Stinnet's book.

[ryguy]

that's a good point to make, it's hard for people to accept new truths, especially since they've all been told differently by the government and the schools they went to.

[Slug]

Hey can "shoot" 3 times in as many seconds, so what kind of expert does that make him?

Besides it's all about the grassy knoll. Didn't you watch the x-files? It was the smoking man behind the grassy knoll.

[Raz Zaphon]

So ryguy, is that 85 year old guy they showed on 20/20 in jail, I thought they killed the guy that shot JKR? And don't you think it's a little dangerous giving the guy who shot the president a gun just to prove a point?? I call bullshit.

[dudeski]

i think that after 65, people should be fucking put to death

[Insert Username]

....but in the other hand, theres some really fucking crazy pricks that will never be ready for the street again, that commited such fucked up acts that they should die for there crimes, just like the poor bastard on the criminals receiving end when he damn well commited...

I guess that's the price we pay for living in a civilised society where we value human life and recognise the difference between punishment and brutality.

[Insert Username]

Any way you slice, I think that we can all agree that the American Government executes more of its own citizens annually than die naturally of insect stings.

[yarq]

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