Looks very nice.
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Ternian wrote:Oooh....Fan-didly-tastic!
Can't wait for these scenes!!! That one pic of all the rebel alliance members...droool.
CoGro wrote:Are you kidding me? You didn't even like the movie.
Devil Dodo wrote:McCallum is retarded, he is the one who killed the PT. Kurtz was the true mastermind behind Star Wars.
Devil Dodo wrote:The thing is the scene is unneeded. Everything we need to know, we are told. Besides the scene is badly written - I'm happy it was cut.
ETAndElliot4Ever wrote: The Qui-Gon scene would have provided an explanation for not only the rest of the saga, but also make the ending feel less tacked on in regards to that plot point.
Fixer wrote:One thing I don't get: if Neeson hates Star Wars and Lucas so much, why did he agree to be in the Vanity Fair cover shot? A paycheck?
Lightivity wrote:Lucas and co-editors ruled out the scene at an early stage and rather had Yoda deliver the essence of the message in a smart and destilled fashion to a surprised Obi-Wan. It was a choice based on streamlining the narration and not on argueing with Liam. Thats it.
Artmaul wrote:There's a difference between doing publicity and showing support for something rather than doing additional work. Politics compels people to make public appearances, but has no bearing on whether or not they will work with somebody again.
Biggs wrote:We don't even know if he INTENDED to put a "Qui-Gon" scene in the movie.
Devil Dodo wrote:Neeson has done nothing to suggest he doesn't like the franchise... He was at the Episode III premiere signing autographs for fucks sake! Would someone who doesn't want anything to do with the series be going to the premiere of a film from the said series that he's not even in?
darthpsychotic wrote:Ben Burt apparently left with some bad feelings towards Lucas & Co.
Ayatollah Krispies wrote:I can't discuss this with the benefit of deep insider knowledge (mainly because it seems to me that the real question is how Liam Neeson handles his career, and not how someone might think things are generally done), so I'll have to come at this another way.
On one hand, seeing that Lucas has spared no expense to get all of the details right (except for where Dooku's blade bit into Anakin's arm...ahem), it seems pretty clear to me that Lucas would have wanted Neeson to do the lines, so it apparently came down to Neeson either being unwilling or unable to do them. That sums up most of the above, yes?
On the other hand, if we do hear Qui-Gon's voice at the end of ROTS, then it sort of raises the question of why neither his voice nor his ghost shows up at any point in the OT. Obviously the character wasn't even thought of while Lucas was putting those movies together, but since we now have the completed saga to look at, and we know his relationship to Anakin, it does make for a dangling thread.
This is something that the EU has had issues with as well; what kind of realistic danger could ever be portrayed if you had Yoda, Obi-Wan or Anakin giving warnings from inside the Force every ten minutes? But if you didn't have that happening, how could you explain their silence? The Bantam books dealt with it by implying that the ghosts eventually had to "move on," and that their contact with the outside world would cease (seems to me that Yoda could have hung around for at least the 3 or 4 years that Obi-Wan did, but no one sought my advice).
So rather than get into the questions regarding a Force ghost's shelf life, I think it's entirely possible that Lucas decided that enough hints had been dropped in the PT for people to make their own minds about how a Jedi joins the Force, and instead opted to leave Qui-Gon's exposition out (or "silent," as it were).
For those who don't want to make up their own minds, there's always the EU.
Artmaul wrote:All of these rationalizations are fantastic, but the bottom line is this:
Lucas tried to have Ben Burtt record the V.O. for that scene, because he desperately wanted it in the movie. No amount of digital modulation would work, so Lucas had it chopped (official Steve Sansweet quote).
Q Welcome back Rick, I loved the movie. I think that the first question on everyone's mind is what happened to Liam Neeson and Qui-gon Jinn in Revenge of the Sith?
R He never was recorded. It was certainly discussed early on and we tried some temporary lines with Ben Burtt doing the voice, but in the end we thought it was better without being so specific.
If Lucas "desperately" wanted the scene in the film enough to do it without Neeson, he could have gone with any number of soundalikes, inlcuding the actor who voices Qui-Gon in the Clone Wars cartoon. I suppose it's remotely possible that Lucas was either unaware of such options or too cheap to pay for them, but the notion that Burtt was meant to be doing an impression of Neeson for the final film seems deeply silly to me.
Artmaul wrote:When you're a director, you wouldn't go for a soundalike unless perhaps the execs. pressured you. You'd want the real deal or nothing else.
It wasn't that Ben Burtt was sitting around in a chair doing bad Liam impersonations into Mr. Microphone. He had the best audio tools to work with, and there was experimentation with pitch, gate, modulation, etc. in order to try and match Liam's voice electronically, but the voice over never sounded right to Lucas.
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