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Postby Topeka » September 20th 2011 4:35 am

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Postby Alexrd » September 20th 2011 6:11 am

Topeka wrote:Taking requests if there's anything you'd like to see.


PT archive commentaries and interviews.

Thanks in advance.
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Postby darthpsychotic » September 20th 2011 9:34 pm

thepiratebay.org Star Wars Bonus Discs-Deleted Scenes 2011 BRRip XViD 720p-NP
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Below is the sample file from above torrents:

The Phantom Menace BLU-Ray Deleted Scene - The Bet.avi

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The Original Trilogy Deleted Scenes just sold me. I highly encourage you to download the and if you haven't done so already then purchase the box set. Although many have seen the Original Trilogy Deleted Scenes ripped from the Behind The Magic CD-ROM released over a decade ago you haven't seen them like this. Plus there is so much more.

Given what was known about the Prequel Trilogy Deleted Animatics being mostly in animatic form - I had low expectations going in. There was no where else to go but up and for me up I went :yay:
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Postby Laubi » September 20th 2011 11:41 pm

could someone post the scene where Luke is finishing his Lightsaber on Tatooine?

I realy need just one screenshot, but the whole scene would be even better.
Same thing for the Endor Bunker Scene.

These two are imo the best scenes on the discs :jedi:

thanks for providing all the other scenes too. I just have the box but no BD-drive in my computer so it's hard to take screenshots :/
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Postby Laubi » September 21st 2011 11:08 pm

thanks Topeka! helps me a lot!
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Postby Inv8r » October 9th 2011 10:54 am

Just got around to checking out some of the PT collections. If nothing else this set may hopefully finally shut up those people who keep bitching about the PT being all CGI and no models. Nice to see so many minatures so beutifully executed.
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Postby Bandersnatch » October 9th 2011 5:15 pm

I would hope. Although I know some people who still absolutely refuse to believe that the Prequels weren't just effortlessly shit out by a Mac. :whateva:
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Postby ETandElliott » October 10th 2011 6:06 pm

Compositing is still atrocious. Attack of the Clones is the worst. The backgrounds have this incredibly fake look to them. The actors appear pasted into the environments. It's tough to explain, but the entire thing appears artificial, regardless of what techniques were used. I'm going to go ahead and blame the computers.
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Postby Alexrd » October 10th 2011 6:11 pm

ETAndElliot4Ever wrote:Compositing is still atrocious. Attack of the Clones is the worst. The backgrounds have this incredibly fake look to them. The actors appear pasted into the environments. It's tough to explain, but the entire thing appears artificial, regardless of what techniques were used. I'm going to go ahead and blame the computers.


Could you give an example? I'm almost sure you're talking about matte paintings.
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Postby Bandersnatch » October 10th 2011 8:06 pm

ETAndElliot4Ever wrote:Attack of the Clones is the worst. The backgrounds have this incredibly fake look to them.


To my eyes, nothing in the entire saga looks as fake as this shot in Return of the Jedi:

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Postby CoGro » October 10th 2011 8:56 pm

Bandersnatch wrote:To my eyes, nothing in the entire saga looks as fake as this shot in Return of the Jedi:

ROTJ has some bad compositing. The Rancor stuff (pre-DVD) was far worse than this though.

I tend to agree with ETandElliot regarding the overall shitiness of the AOTC VFX effort. It's not any particular shot, it's just that if you were to make a sizzle reel of the worst VFX in the saga, the vast majority of them would come from AOTC.

Examples:
- The opening sequence (Coruscant cloud-fog) looks like a PS2 video game cutscene.
Then we get a very fake-looking CG R2, which ejects from the Naboo fighter - The entire scene is terribly composited.

- Anakin's cow-riding on Naboo is horribly animated.
Those cows all look like they're out of a video game.

- Obi-Wan walking through the clone production facility - very artificial.

- Padme eating the pear might be the worst VFX shot in the saga.

- Obi-wan exploring Geonosis is a good example of unrealistic compositing.

- 3P0 CGI during the droid foundry sequence and the arena battle: embarrassingly bad.

Conclusion: the digital backlot is one of the worst things to happen to Star Wars. It puts the onus squarely on digital artists to make a sequence work. It can be brilliantly acted, well-directed and wonderfully scored but if the compositor working on this sequence isn't as talented as the one working on others it completely botches the hard work of the rest of the production team.
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Postby TroyObliX » October 10th 2011 10:05 pm

Kind of hard to pin any 'bad shot' on one particular step/person, isn't it?

With the multi-layered stacks of departmental director approval and up the chain of command to compiling and editing, how does the blame get all the way back to the guy with the hot-pockets and the Prius payment, punching the clock? I'm just wondering how some of the really crappy shots actually make it past "is this the only take we have of this?", or "Hey, is this the best you can give me?" before they just say eff it and print it. Or whatever they do, copy and paste it.
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Postby CoGro » October 10th 2011 11:21 pm

TroyObliX wrote:Kind of hard to pin any 'bad shot' on one particular step/person, isn't it?

With the multi-layered stacks of departmental director approval and up the chain of command to compiling and editing, how does the blame get all the way back to the guy with the hot-pockets and the Prius payment, punching the clock? I'm just wondering how some of the really crappy shots actually make it past "is this the only take we have of this?", or "Hey, is this the best you can give me?" before they just say eff it and print it. Or whatever they do, copy and paste it.


Not every talent is created equal. There's like 6 different people animating Yoda for different sequences, another bunch colouring him and another bunch compositing him. You can't have the A+ team work on every Yoda sequence or else it would take 6 times as long to get those shots done so you've got to live with the A, A-, B and C teams' work and move on. It's a fact not just of moviemaking but of business.

So is it the "fault" of the lowly animator/artist? Well, yes and no. It's not his/her fault they're not as talented as the better team but if you want to finger point and ask "why" that's your answer.
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Postby Alexrd » October 11th 2011 3:33 am

Bandersnatch wrote:To my eyes, nothing in the entire saga looks as fake as this shot in Return of the Jedi


Indeed. That tops the rank of fake backgrounds.
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Postby Inv8r » October 11th 2011 5:08 pm

No no no. The C- team was all busy on the DVDs and eventual BD release, so was unavailable for AotC. I think a great deal of the problem with AotC is the perhaps premature move to the digital camera.

One, you had a very early generation camera which cuased it's own problems. Two you had Lucas thinking that what they WERE capturing was too sharp, and so ran a kind of gausian blur on the live action footage to bring it back a bit. Then you've got the CGI stuff which they seemed to have no issue having excellent sharpness. You put those together and you get a weird soft look to the live action footage and razor sharpness to the CGI elements, and THAT'S where you get comp work which just doesn't quite gel.

Worst I think is Obi-Wan sneaking into the termite mound. It looks a little better on the BD, but that is some seriously awful compositing there. The droid factory stuff was done offsite (so I understand, particularly R2s little adventure and Threepios antics), and features some really terrible animation. Down to the fact that they had very little time from concept to sign off on the shots, since the sequence was added so damn late in the game (wasn't it like March or something silly like that?).

Anyways doesn't change the fact that there is some really high quality miniature work in the PT films.
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Postby Inv8r » October 11th 2011 5:11 pm

ETAndElliot4Ever wrote:Attack of the Clones is the worst. The backgrounds have this incredibly fake look to them.

Bandersnatch wrote:Image

To my eyes, nothing in the entire saga looks as fake as this shot in Return of the Jedi:



That scene makes we wince every time I see it. Jeesus, of all the things which could have been fucked with for the SEs...
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Postby TroyObliX » October 12th 2011 9:33 am

Umm, see that's what I mean. How does that shot make it in? And how can you pin it on anyone who worked on it, and not whoever accepted it, or designed it to be shot like that and demanded it looked perfect? The backdrop looks so obviously bad in relation to the actors, but at the same time the painting is fantastic!

While I whince when I see it, I can't help but also marvel at the MF sitting there, and part of me wishes they sold that crappy backdrop in some kind of wall-paper hobby kit that I could buy from my local home improvement mega-retailer. Honestly I don't even watch the Han/Lando bit anymore, I'm deluded by the painting.

Although from what I've seen here it looks ultra shitty on blu-ray, whoevers fault it is :?
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Postby Ascovel » October 12th 2011 11:17 am

ETAndElliot4Ever wrote:Compositing is still atrocious. Attack of the Clones is the worst. The backgrounds have this incredibly fake look to them. The actors appear pasted into the environments. It's tough to explain, but the entire thing appears artificial, regardless of what techniques were used. I'm going to go ahead and blame the computers.


Completely agreed about Attack of the Clones. The lighting (and wind) on the actors usually doesn't seem to match the environments and to make it worse they've been made brighter than the "backgrounds" in compositing(?), hence the pasted-on effect. Fortunately the movie looks way better in HD, but still.

The most painfully fake looking shot in the film for me is Anaking looking at the sand people camp from the top of a cliff. Hayden is so obviously a separate image than the rest, that watching this scene I can only think of him in a studio with nothing but blue screen around.
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