Episode S05E16 • The Lawless

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Episode S05E16 • The Lawless

Postby darthpsychotic » February 2nd 2013 6:47 am

February 2 2013

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"Morality separates heroes from villains."

Episode Guide: The Lawless

Director: Brian Kalin O'Connell
Writer: Chris Collins

Synopsis: Using Duchess Satine as bait - Darth Maul lures Obi-Wan into a trap.

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Postby royalguard96 » February 2nd 2013 10:00 am

That episode has to be among the top 5 in the history of the series. Wow...
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Postby Bandersnatch » February 2nd 2013 10:07 am

WOW! That was some seriously hairy shit right there.

Agreed, one of the absolute best. I went from having tears in my eyes to cheering when Sidious let loose the Force lightning. :funkycomedyscience:
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Postby The_Somnambulist » February 2nd 2013 10:13 am

Wow! That was a most packed and intense episode. And lots of death! :spawnskull:

The showdown between the horned Sith brothers and Sidious was, in a word, stunning. The fight was well-choreographed and the music was appropriately epic. I loved the Guernica-inspired mural as a backdrop for the latter part of the duel.

Also, I thought Obi-Wan's use of the crimson Death Watch armor was reminiscent of a Shadows of the Empire toy I've seen of Luke donning similarly colored armor. For some reason, I get a strange thrill seeing familiar characters in unfamiliar duds.
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Postby royalguard96 » February 2nd 2013 10:20 am

A couple of homages that weren't too obvious (the best kind).

Obi-Wan walking into the cell in disguise to rescue a female.

Obi-Wan's "I'm so sorry" at the end.

And Hasbro needs to make a Darth Sidious figure as it appeared in that episode. Like, now. I'd buy two.
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Postby CommanderBly » February 2nd 2013 4:27 pm

The episode was amazing. The quality was near movie quality especially during the civil war battle near the end. It was cool how they revealed Bo to be Satine's sister. I really like that contrast between the two. Obi-Wan looks cool in the red Mandalorian armor. That fight at the end... awesome. I really feel sorry for Savage honestly.
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Postby Bandersnatch » February 2nd 2013 5:30 pm

I caught at least two references to A New Hope:

Obi-Wan knocking out the guy and taking his suit.

Maul saying "I sense something... a presence I have not felt since..."
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Postby Maveritchell » February 2nd 2013 6:44 pm

Bandersnatch wrote:I caught at least two references to A New Hope:

Obi-Wan knocking out the guy and taking his suit.

Maul saying "I sense something... a presence I have not felt since..."


Yeah, there were also the couple instances (at the beginning and later with Bo Katan) of "I'm X, and I'm here to rescue you."
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Postby E_CHU_TA! » February 2nd 2013 8:08 pm

This episode was an explosive, but also surprisingly complex ending to the arc. I find the throne room scene to be especially fascinating. In it, Maul postures and Obi-wan helplessly struggles to retain his nobility. All the while, Satine suffers while the audience wonders if Maul is going to end her life. He does and Obi-wan fails yet again. Previously, he failed to help protect his master. He also failed to the kill the man who destroyed his master (which leads to this scene where the love of his life dies).

Later, he will find that he could not keep the boy he raised from turning to the Dark Side. Yet, despite these defeats, you can’t really view Obi-wan as pathetic character. In the end, he always seems to retain his sense of purpose and his faith in his ideals. Case in point is his reaction to Maul during this scene. Obi-wan controls his un-Jedi-like fear and anger and finds a way to earnestly empathize with his tormentor’s cruel life. That takes strength and intelligence.

Overall, Obi-wan's struggles reminds me of the proverb from Ghosts of Mortis:: “He who seeks to control fate shall never find peace." Importantly, Obi-wan accepts his failings. While this doesn’t lead to peace, it does allow him to counterbalance his defeats. I suppose it’s analogous to his fate in Episode 4. He willingly accepts defeat to Vader. In turn, the loss of his life allows him to serve a higher purpose.

Consequently, I like that Obi-wan modifies Satine’s “always” for his famous line to Luke. It’s tragic origin gives an already weighty quote further depth.

Regarding Maul, his defeat seems fitting. His humiliating loss reasserts Sidious as the meanest predator in the galaxy and, with his brother’s death, gives Maul another tragic layer. I did like Maul’s blubbering at the end. When a bully gets the tables turned on him, they sometimes turn into an embarrassing mess (for example). Plus, it gives Sidious a reference for his fake defeat at the hands of Mace. Overall, I think Mual’s future purpose will have to do with the loose end of Ventress and Anakin’s move toward the Darkside.

Regarding Mandalore, I have a feeling that this is the last time that the series will pay a visit to the planet. If true, it won’t be a total loss. I’m sure that Disney is intelligent enough to resurrect Death Watch in some capacity. Heck, the back-story behind one of the many cubist reliefs would make for an interesting standalone film.

CommanderBly wrote:It was cool how they revealed Bo to be Satine's sister. I really like that contrast between the two.

I like this too. Mandalore’s dual nature is overtly symbolic of man’s ability to be both warlike and peaceful. The kinship between Satine and Katan takes that analogy to a more intimate level.

The_Somnambulist wrote:Also, I thought Obi-Wan's use of the crimson Death Watch armor was reminiscent of a Shadows of the Empire toy I've seen of Luke donning similarly colored armor. For some reason, I get a strange thrill seeing familiar characters in unfamiliar duds.

It’s this figure:

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royalguard96 wrote:And Hasbro needs to make a Darth Sidious figure as it appeared in that episode. Like, now. I'd buy two.

Since Hasbro has released Clone Wars Sidious and a Death Watch warrior in the past, you would think that they would reissue repainted figures with this year’s first wave. For some reason, it’s not happening.

UPDATE: You can watch video of today's “Google Hangout” with Dave Filoni, Matt Lanter, Ashley Eckstein, and Sam Witwer over at the Star Wars You Tube channel. They discuss this arc in depth, show a scene from the next episode, and repeatedly emphasize how huge-o the next four episodes will be regarding Ahsoka’s fate.
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Postby Cryostar » February 2nd 2013 9:37 pm

Holy shit !

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Postby Bandersnatch » February 2nd 2013 10:05 pm

E_CHU_TA! wrote:Consequently, I like that Obi-wan modifies Satine’s “always” for his famous line to Luke. It’s tragic origin gives an already weighty quote further depth.


I hadn't even thought of that. That's wonderful.
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Postby jokerq » February 3rd 2013 12:23 am

@E_CHU_TA!

Well written!!
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Postby Alexrd » February 3rd 2013 6:00 am

Did anyone notice the Royal Guards on Palpatine's office?
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Postby Sith Hunter#1 » February 3rd 2013 1:28 pm

Absolutely amazing episode!

Was worried it was it was gonna be Maul who bought the farm, just as gutted that Savage has gone though.
I wonder what Sidious has planned for Maul & how he’s gonna use him.

Did anyone else notice the slight nod to the speeder bike chase from Jedi? When Satine is being chased & her speeder flies past the two guards hiding behind the building…reminded me very much of a similar scene from Return of the Jedi.
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Postby royalguard96 » February 3rd 2013 2:07 pm

Alexrd wrote:Did anyone notice the Royal Guards on Palpatine's office?


YES!
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Postby E_CHU_TA! » February 3rd 2013 3:48 pm

I didn't catch them until my second viewing. One other item about the throne room scene: Obi-wan states that Maul can kill him, but not destroy him. One one level, he is talking about his Jedi ideals and, on another level, he is foreshadowing his resurrection as a Force Ghost.
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Postby Paul_Calf » February 3rd 2013 5:14 pm

That was truy jaw-dropping, many thanks for the up.

I love how Kiner used the Emperor's choral theme from Return of the Jedi. :)
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Postby Alexrd » February 3rd 2013 5:22 pm

I love how they made him look like the Grim Reaper from his arrival at Mandalore to his meeting with Maul.
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Postby E_CHU_TA! » February 4th 2013 6:06 pm

A new preview for Sabotage is below. In the Featurette for Lawless, Filoni may have revealed something big: “one of the early mandates of George in the Clone (Wars) was that he really wanted to kill off a lot of the characters that weren’t in the movies.” Goodbye, Ahsoka and Rex?

BTW, it appears that the Clone Wars action figure line is canceled.

[flash width=645 height=385]http://www.youtube.com/v/4b4DbPqPe0g?fs=1&hl=en_US&rel=0&hd=1[/flash]
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Postby DoubleSith » February 4th 2013 10:15 pm

E_CHU_TA! wrote:BTW, it appears that the Clone Wars action figure line is canceled.


I hope that's not true, as it doesn't bode well for the future of the show. :vsuicide:
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Postby AdamK » February 7th 2013 4:16 am

[flash width=640 height=385]http://www.youtube.com/v/Jr8wuEZaYcI?fs=1&hl=en_US&rel=0&hd=1[/flash]

Clone Wars Season 5 Finale Trailer

Is this video new ? I didn't see it before and it looks kinda cool. The trooper transport seems to have TIE wings and things are finally going to get more serious about questioning the Jedi getting involved in the war and politics.
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Postby Alexrd » February 7th 2013 6:31 am

AdamK wrote:Is this video new ?


Wow... I wasn't that much interested in this arc, but now I can't wait.

P.S: And here's the source.
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Postby Bandersnatch » February 7th 2013 7:15 am



Oh.

Shit.

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Postby E_CHU_TA! » February 7th 2013 6:43 pm

Why are there only 20 episodes this year as opposed to the usual 22? Also, are yellow lightsabers finally cannon?

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Postby JWFan » February 7th 2013 7:08 pm

Only twenty episodes concerns me as well. There was supposed to be the Clovis arc, which would have pushed it to 23. But for some reason it got lost in the shuffling around of episodes.

I have a feeling it has something to do with the Disney acquisition and the ambiguity of TCW's final destination on tv. My real fear is that it is because this arc will serve as the series finale. It is a baseless fear, but there are too many little pieces of evidence around that keep me from dispelling it outright. It's enough to keep me worried.
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Postby Alexrd » February 7th 2013 7:10 pm

JWFan wrote:Only twenty episodes concerns me as well. There was supposed to be the Clovis arc, which would have pushed it to 23. But for some reason it got lost in the shuffling around of episodes.

I have a feeling it has something to do with the Disney acquisition and the ambiguity of TCW's final destination on tv. My real fear is that it is because this arc will serve as the series finale. It is a baseless fear, but there are too many little pieces of evidence around that keep me from dispelling it outright. It's enough to keep me worried.


James Arnold Taylor just posted today that he was about to go to a Clone Wars session. I don't think it will end anytime soon. I'm expecting at least one more season.
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Postby JWFan » February 7th 2013 7:23 pm

That is a relief.

It still is puzzling why they would move a whole arc out of the season, without the very least replacing it with another. Unless it is a result of them placing the Young Jedi arc into this season, and thus pushing their episode count above the customary twenty-two.
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Postby E_CHU_TA! » February 7th 2013 8:16 pm

Upon reflection, I am now wondering if 20 episodes is the minimum that Lucasfilm agreed to provide to Cartoon Network for season 5. There are more Clone Wars stories to tell as evidenced by last week's open ending and Filoni's statements about additional episodes already being in the can.
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Postby The_Somnambulist » February 7th 2013 8:25 pm

Enticing little trailer. :)

I'm loving those empire-y looking shots of a rally or something on Coruscant. Lots of red, white, grey, black and Death Star-like interior design elements. Kinda scary.
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Postby Alexrd » February 8th 2013 7:27 am

Better quality:

[flash width=640 height=385]http://www.youtube.com/v/PfZq0ddylhE?fs=1&hl=en_US&rel=0&hd=1[/flash]
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