Will the Sequel Trilogy ruin the Prequel Trilogy

[MetalGoldKnight]

When the prequels came out, most people thought they sucked and a lot of Star Wars fans complained about how they ruined the Original Trilogy. What are the odds that the new Star Wars movies will be so bad that they not only further ruin the Original Trilogy, but ruin the Prequel Trilogy as well?

On the bright side, for the few of you who actually liked the prequels, there's some good news: The new movies might be so much worse that the prequels will look good by comparison, and future generations might even think of the first six movies as the good "originals" and the later Disney movies as the awful ones.

[Alexrd]

The pretentiousness is strong with this poll...

[Cryostar]

All you have to do is look who set it up....

[MetalGoldKnight]

Is it pretentious to dislike the prequels now? Because guess what, the vast majority of people in the English-speaking world dislike them.

[Alexrd]

Is it pretentious to dislike the prequels now?

It's pretentious to pass your dislike as an universal truth.

Because guess what, the vast majority of people in the English-speaking world dislike them.

Source?

[Cryostar]

Sadly, we were talking about the Yiddish speaking world.....

[MetalGoldKnight]

Because guess what, the vast majority of people in the English-speaking world dislike them.

Source?

http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star ... om-menace/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJM5Citn3rY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4hvUvBmoaA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvJD9fHS8Hk

http://www.chefelf.com/starwars/ep1_1-10.php

http://www.the-editing-room.com/phantommenace.html

The fact that the prequels sucked is basically a meme at this point. It's been so pervasive throughout pop-culture that I can't see how anyone could deny it.

[The_Somnambulist]

The longest line is never outside the best restaurant.

[Cryostar]

Spider-man is a meme....therefore he must suck, universally.....oh wait.

[Alexrd]

The fact that the prequels sucked

That's not a fact, it's your subjective opinion. And linking to the subjective opinions of others doesn't turn them into facts either.

Spider-man is a meme....therefore he must suck, universally.....oh wait.

Poor Ackbar never had a chance...

[Cryostar]

[MetalGoldKnight]

That's not a fact, it's your subjective opinion. And linking to the subjective opinions of others doesn't turn them into facts either.

Alright, how about this: A significant majority of casual moviegoers, film critics, and Star Wars fans hold the subjective opinion that the prequels suck. This is evidenced by the multitude of reviews, articles, blog posts, forum posts, internet memes, and pop culture shout-outs expressing that opinion. Is that enough of a fact for you?

[dromag]

That's not a fact, it's your subjective opinion. And linking to the subjective opinions of others doesn't turn them into facts either.

Alright, how about this: A significant majority of casual moviegoers, film critics, and Star Wars fans hold the subjective opinion that the prequels suck. This is evidenced by the multitude of reviews, articles, blog posts, forum posts, internet memes, and pop culture shout-outs expressing that opinion. Is that enough of a fact for you?

Popular Opinion =/= Facts

I enjoy plenty of things most people hate including the Prequels. I enjoyed them for what they are: "a source of entertainment" and I accept the fact that there are many people that don't. At this point no one is going to change anyone's mind about the prequels. They are what they are.

[stan Marsh]

That's not a fact, it's your subjective opinion. And linking to the subjective opinions of others doesn't turn them into facts either.

Alright, how about this: A significant majority of casual moviegoers, film critics, and Star Wars fans hold the subjective opinion that the prequels suck. This is evidenced by the multitude of reviews, articles, blog posts, forum posts, internet memes, and pop culture shout-outs expressing that opinion. Is that enough of a fact for you?

No it's a collection of other opinions.

[MetalGoldKnight]

I enjoy plenty of things most people hate including the Prequels. I enjoyed them for what they are: "a source of entertainment" and I accept the fact that there are many people that don't. At this point no one is going to change anyone's mind about the prequels. They are what they are.

Then what's the point of this forum? To jerk off together about how great Lucas is and discuss how the random alien in the background of the opera scene is a metaphor for the Buddhist cycle of death and rebirth?

And yeah, the prequels are fine as "a source of entertainment" on par with dumb summer blockbusters like Transformers and Battleship. I mean, on some level they're just average slightly-smarter-than-mindless sci-fi action popcorn flicks. They're not awful by movie standards, just very mediocre, but they're awful by Star Wars standards. Compared to the original trilogy, they're sub-par at best. Even Return of the Jedi was leagues and bounds better than the best parts of the prequels, and Return of the Jedi was nowhere near as good as the first two films.

It's like that dumb I, Robot movie. If they'd just stuck with the original plan and called it Hardwired, I would've been content with spending :10bux: to chill out for two hours and watch Will Smith punch evil robots and make wisecracks. Probably would've forgotten about it as soon as I left the theater, but whatever, not every sci-fi movie has to be Blade Runner or even Terminator. But then they had to slap the name of Issac Asimov's most famous book onto it, so when I went in expecting a serious and mindful work of speculative fiction and got "Aw Hell Naw", it was a pretty big disappointment.

If the prequels had just been random big-budget roller coasters that had nothing to do with Star Wars, I'd have been content to sit back, enjoy the ride, rank them a solid 5.5/10 on IMDB, and forget about them, instead of complaining about them on internet forums 9 years later.

[Bandersnatch]

Then what's the point of this forum?

To not just blab on and on like the dork rockets on IMDB do:
"THE PREQUALS ARE TEH SUCK HERP DERP!"

[dromag]

I enjoy plenty of things most people hate including the Prequels. I enjoyed them for what they are: "a source of entertainment" and I accept the fact that there are many people that don't. At this point no one is going to change anyone's mind about the prequels. They are what they are.

Then what's the point of this forum? To jerk off together about how great Lucas is and discuss how the random alien in the background of the opera scene is a metaphor for the Buddhist cycle of death and rebirth?

Hey you can get the circle jerk about how shitty and fucked up the prequel trilogy and how George shat on your childhood anywhere. Any comment section for any website that lists any article about TFA will provide you with that.

Don't even attempt to claim this place is a circle jerk for George. It certainly isn't and I've been reading this site as long as you've been posting.

I'm going to keep an open mind to the new movies just as I had going into the prequels. I never expected the prequels to provide me reboots on the same quality level as ESB so I didn't get the whole George shat on my childhood feeling. There are very few franchises that can keep giving you the same ESB feeling 6 movies in with a completely new cast and locations and expecting that same feeling or level of quality is ridiculous.

It's nice to keep an open mind about things. My first impressions of the new saber was that it looked stupid as hell but I'm going to keep an open mind about it anyways.

[Cryostar]

I believe that if you could actually come up with formative facts and opinions that are not just the recycled trash of undereducated, over-opinioned fat slops with a keyboard (I'm looking at you Knowles), you may be taken more seriously.

Instead of talking about how bad shit sucks because four random websites say so, maybe you should try to be constructive in existing forums.

[CoGro]

I believe that if you could actually come up with formative facts and opinions that are not just the recycled trash of undereducated, over-opinioned fat slops with a keyboard (I'm looking at you Knowles), you may be taken more seriously.

For the record, Harry was actually a big fan and defender of the PT.

Anyhow, this is a stupid thread.

[TroyObliX]

MGK is to be commended for his shit disturbing ways. I too find that, overall, the prequels do indeed suck. Sub-par by OT standards. I am, however, not brave enough to defend such as fact. The division between bravery and stupidity is in the outcome. And while PT-bashing is almost as popular as the PT itself, I don't do it to be fashionable. I just really think the writing and direction are weak. The story is knotted with too many convenient coincidences for my taste. It was very, very pretty though. And fun to watch.

I'd still rather watch the PT than ever be cursed with movies such as Skyline, Keanu in The Day the Earth Stood Still, or fuck, even the second two Matrix movies. Godawful mess.

Anyways, fighting is fun. Fuck being nice, this is just typing for strangers anyways. Might be the wrong sub-forum though Fuck it.

[MetalGoldKnight]

I agree with you, I'd rather watch the PT than most of the effortless garbage that Hollywood churns out. If you're going with the premise that 90% of everything is utter shit, I'd begrudgingly put the PT in the remaining 10%. But like you said, the plotting and writing and directing are all very weak compared to the OT, or even compared to a fun but unexceptional piece of sci-fi adventure fluff like Guardians of the Galaxy. And since the prequel movies all have STAR WARS plastered across their opening scenes and their packaging and their merchandise, you can't expect me NOT to contrast them with the OT.

I'm going to keep an open mind to the new movies just as I had going into the prequels. I never expected the prequels to provide me reboots on the same quality level as ESB so I didn't get the whole George shat on my childhood feeling. There are very few franchises that can keep giving you the same ESB feeling 6 movies in with a completely new cast and locations and expecting that same feeling or level of quality is ridiculous.

True, but I'd at least expected something on par with Return of the Jedi, and Revenge of the Sith was the only one of the prequels that even came close.

[Cryostar]

That is true, CoGro....but after everything else....He's the easiest target and example.

[MetalGoldKnight]

He's certainly the biggest target.

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