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So, the track from the trailer (Force theme w/ choir) is not in the soundtrack. I thought the OST would be the saving grace of this whole project, but turns out that it's just 'okay'...

by **darthpsychotic** » December 16th 2015 3:36 pm

kickasstorrents John Williams - Star Wars The Force Awakens [OST 2015]

Code: Select all: Artist : John Williams Album : Star Wars: The Force Awakens Genre : Soundtrack Year : 2015 Tracks : 23 Playtime : 01:17:26 Size : 139.41 MB Codec : MPEG 1 Layer III / Xing / VBR 01. Main Title and the Attack on the Jakku Village (06:25) 02. The Scavenger (03:39) 03. I Can Fly Anything (03:11) 04. Rey Meets BB-8 (01:31) 05. Follow Me (02:54) 06. Rey's Theme (03:11) 07. The Falcon (03:32) 08. That Girl with the Staff (01:58) 09. The Rathtars! (04:05) 10. Finn's Confession (02:08) 11. Maz's Counsel (03:07) 12. The Starkiller (01:51) 13. Kylo Ren Arrives at the Battle (02:01) 14. The Abduction (02:25) 15. Han and Leia (04:41) 16. March of the Resistance (02:35) 17. Snoke (02:03) 18. On the Inside (02:05) 19. Torn Apart (04:19) 20. The Ways of the Force (03:15) 21. Scherzo for X-Wings (02:32) 22. Farewell and the Trip (04:55) 23. The Jedi Steps and Finale (08:51)

by **buzzfunk** » December 16th 2015 8:40 pm

Alexrd wrote:So, the track from the trailer (Force theme w/ choir) is not in the soundtrack. I thought the OST would be the saving grace of this whole project, but turns out that it's just 'okay'...

Yeah thats really a bummer because that force theme arrangement was powerful (minus the stupid trailer drums) and to be honest: I did not look at the track names but i listened to the whole ( i have it preorderd. Paid for it) in my car and aside from one cue, its very very disappointing.

Im not sure whats going on? TPM score is leaps and bounds better IMO (even tho the movie blew). There is no new order theme like the imperial march really. Kinda mad at myself for being weak having listened to it now...hopefully the movie will tie it all in. But on its own, it by far my least fav of the SW soundtracks right now.

by **Thundercracker** » December 16th 2015 9:49 pm

Unfortunately, the score does seem to be one of the common criticisms among the otherwise positive impressions/reviews that I've read so far. That's a shame.

by **buzzfunk** » December 17th 2015 12:37 am

Thundercracker wrote:Unfortunately, the score does seem to be one of the common criticisms among the otherwise positive impressions/reviews that I've read so far. That's a shame.

Yes. And to me this is unbelievable. Williams is a genius so Im having a hard time understanding the lack of themes aside from the overuse of the Force theme. I love Rey's theme. Playful and strong. But wheres the theme for the new order? Aside from the old stuff

there is nothing that sticks out...kinda blows my mind. Just such a missed opportunity to build on whats already great. Also that force theme arrangement from the trailer was so powerful. A bit ironic since TPM turned out to be terrible but its score was so so good.

I listened to Empire right after TFA and sure enough, almost every cue is memorable. I know i should shut up and just enjoy the movie. ok. So i will on Friday....I guess it will be interesting what they will do for the Anthology movies, IE who will score it.

by **CoGro** » December 17th 2015 1:00 am

Williams is in his 80s. It's arguable that he hasn't been great for a decade. Serviceable, sure, but expecting another classic score is asking way too much from him at this point. He used to crank out 3 unique, and memorable, themes per movie and now you're lucky if you get one.

I had major doubts that he would be able to deliver a classic Star Wars score so this isn't a surprise to me.

by **buzzfunk** » December 17th 2015 2:35 am

CoGro wrote:Williams is in his 80s. It's arguable that he hasn't been great for a decade. Serviceable, sure, but expecting another classic score is asking way too much from him at this point. He used to crank out 3 unique, and memorable, themes per movie and now you're lucky if you get one.

I had major doubts that he would be able to deliver a classic Star Wars score so this isn't a surprise to me.

Maybe. But age isn't really limiting him. He's conducting and all. I suppose I take a good SW movie with an average score over a terrible movie with a superb one. But im already missing the Imperial march. Would have been cool to have something similar for the new order. ESB is blasting upstairs. Prob my fav movie and score.

by **phil** » December 17th 2015 9:21 am

This soundtrack is good. I don't want the imperial march version 150. I want new and this is it. I thought the score worked perfectly.

by **Bandersnatch** » December 17th 2015 9:32 am

Yep, sounds great to me.
It's not the London Symphony Orchestra but it is a compilation of high class musicians, not just some pick-up band.

by **teamneedle** » December 17th 2015 11:10 am

Rushing from one action scene to another doesn't give Willams much to work with as far as time to create recurring themes.

by **buzzfunk** » December 17th 2015 12:45 pm

phil wrote:This soundtrack is good. I don't want the imperial march version 150. I want new and this is it. I thought the score worked perfectly.

Lol is that a fact or your opinion? You know, opinions are like asshats..i meant assholes.

by **royalguard96** » December 17th 2015 1:32 pm

Gave it a listen..Rey's Theme and Scavenger are my early favorites. I'll be interested to take in the music in the context with their corresponding scenes. Also, I wonder how much music in the film wasn't included in the soundtrack.

I will say, based on just the soundtrack alone, there weren't any spine-tingling moments for me. That may very well change after viewing the film (which I will tonight).

by **ETandElliott** » December 17th 2015 10:12 pm

I love this score.

Nice dry recording sounds a million times better than the flat-sounding prequel scores. No offense to the London Symphony Orchestra, it was the recording/mixing. This Hollywood orchestra was in Temple of Doom mode.

It feels like vintage 70s Williams, with more similarities to Close Encounters, Black Sunday and The Fury than the original Star Wars.

by **Alexrd** » December 18th 2015 4:44 am

ETandElliott wrote:Nice dry recording sounds a million times better than the flat-sounding prequel scores.

Not liking them is one thing, but "flat"? :whateva:

by **dromag** » December 18th 2015 4:51 am

Something sounded "off" on the Main Title compared to say ANH.

by **phil** » December 19th 2015 7:14 am

Opinion of course. I just want some new music. Didn't meant to come off like a jerk, sorry if I did.

by **bfett81** » December 19th 2015 1:57 pm

Yes, the opening chord isn't as full. Not as rich or powerful.

There's a discussion about this on reddit and the indication is that this is the result of a 90-piece orchestra instead of 120 like the prequels and OT had.

by **Bandersnatch** » December 19th 2015 2:03 pm

I just got the CD of the soundtrack, cranked it up on my professional home theatre sound system, and the opening theme is as kick ass as ever.
I can't imagine on what shitty system these people are listening.

by **dromag** » December 19th 2015 6:37 pm

Bandersnatch wrote:I just got the CD of the soundtrack, cranked it up on my professional home theatre sound system, and the opening theme is as kick ass as ever.
I can't imagine on what shitty system these people are listening.

Oh come on listen to it back to back with the ANH Main Title and tell me it's the same. :roll:

by **ETandElliott** » December 19th 2015 6:44 pm

ETandElliott wrote:Nice dry recording sounds a million times better than the flat-sounding prequel scores.

Alexrd wrote:Not liking them is one thing, but "flat"?

Huh? I love the prequel scores, but yes, they sound flat and muddy aside from the dynamically-compressed TPM Ultimate Edition. I attribute that to Shawn Murphy, who seems to have redeemed himself by now. This is a really dry recording with a punchy sound. It really comes alive.

by **Topeka** » December 19th 2015 6:46 pm

You don't need a 'professional home theatre sound system' to determine the theme was played with a much smaller orchestra.

I was surprised by the lack of identifiable motifs for the new characters.

by **ki adi moonshine** » December 19th 2015 6:48 pm

My favorite cue is from when Rey is fighting Kylo. I love how the Force Theme clashes with a frantic version of Rey's theme.

I think Williams still has it, but honestly the film itself and the way it is paced, it didn't give him a chance to really develop a lot of recurring motifs. I like the score, and I hope he goes all out with the next film, but, yeah, I can see why some are disappointed. This one is much more subdued than his other SW scores.

Especially compared to ROTS, which I believe is his best SW score, maybe just behind ANH or at least on par with it.

by **ETandElliott** » December 19th 2015 7:11 pm

At the start of "The Ways of the Force", you can hear the original intended rendition of the Force Theme when Rey gets the lightsaber. In the film, it was awkwardly replaced with a quote of "The Return Home" from the original score.

by **Bandersnatch** » December 19th 2015 9:57 pm

It's not a smaller orchestra, it's just a different orchestra. And it sounds great on my sound system.

by **darthpsychotic** » December 21st 2015 2:12 am

Disney uploaded the score to their Vevo account.

After Thursday's evening viewing the soundtrack grew on me much more - particularly The Order's motif which resembles the Emperor's theme in tone. Like wise The Falcon is in the vein of Empire's Rescue from Cloud City/Hyperspace".

As stated by others the leomotifs are not standouts yet aren't filler like Attack Of The Clones. Still I would liked some more of Empire's scenes Han and Leia. The absence of Imperial March was appreciated however. The full blown inclusion on Attack Of The Clone's finale killed that score for me.

This new film's soundtrack featuring mostly new material will only grow in time.

by **Hokusai** » December 21st 2015 10:58 am

As a semi pro violinist, I always enjoy everyone's extremely astute observations regarding soundtrack.

Anyone ever heard the music in that YouTube link? Sound familiar?

by **Bandersnatch** » December 21st 2015 12:26 pm

Yes, Korngold's King's Row score is great. First time I heard it, I about jumped out of my seat, then realized it was something else. :jammin:

by **Sith Hunter#1** » December 21st 2015 1:00 pm

Does anyone out there have a link to the unabridged audio book, preferably with the chapters split into individual ones instead of a full single file?
I thought id found it today but it was just a stream. Im looking for the full download to save to my pc.

by **Corellianrogue** » December 22nd 2015 11:06 am

Hokusai wrote:http://youtu.be/AJwa9mX0bxA

As a semi pro violinist, I always enjoy everyone's extremely astute observations regarding soundtrack. Anyone ever heard the music in that YouTube link? Sound familiar?

It looks like Leia's hairstyle at the end of TFA was inspired by Ann Sheridan's Kings Row hairstyle too.

Also, Kings Row was a Ronald Reagan movie and when he was President of the USA his (ultimately shelved) SDI project was nicknamed Star Wars. This is getting bizarre!

by **MannyOrtez** » December 31st 2015 6:13 pm

This soundtrack has grown on me since I first saw the film - but I still think its too often disjointed, chaotic, incoherent. It just too abruptly follows every beat of the film, and at times it just feels like random brass instruments blaring back & forth. There are a lot of great moments though, and I didn't realize how much I liked Rey's theme when I saw the film. That is a wonderful addition to the saga.

by **royalguard96** » January 2nd 2016 9:11 am

MannyOrtez wrote:This soundtrack has grown on me since I first saw the film - but I still think its too often disjointed, chaotic, incoherent. It just too abruptly follows every beat of the film, and at times it just feels like random brass instruments blaring back & forth. There are a lot of great moments though, and I didn't realize how much I liked Rey's theme when I saw the film. That is a wonderful addition to the saga.

Agree on everything you said. It had its strong points, but "left a lot of points on the field."

by **CoGro** » January 2nd 2016 11:22 am

My favourite musical moment of the film is when Rey meets BB-8. It has a Spielergian, almost ET-like charm.

by **Zaius** » January 2nd 2016 4:39 pm

Rey's theme is a tune that stuck, after the first two viewings. A highlight
of the films score for me was the last scene.

The score's does seem too down in the mix compared to the other films.

Some interesting observations about Mr Williams body of work at this link.

http://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultur ... -star-wars

by **royalguard96** » January 4th 2016 5:24 pm

Rebel Force Radio - Jimmy Mac and David Collins - have a regular podcast series analyzing the various soundtracks from the films. This series is extremely insightful to all of the soundtracks. Collins in particular, applies some professional expertise into the guts of the music.

Here is their podcast about The Force Awakens soundtrack.

TFA Podcast

by **KyleKartanMG** » August 25th 2016 2:36 am

Hey.

Does anybody knows a good Source To watch or Download the whole AFI Award Show for John Williams?

by **The_Somnambulist** » September 3rd 2016 3:59 pm

Here's a piece:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzEM5UUnh6w

There are also more pieces from the AFI YouTube channel. It'd be great to find the whole damn thing.

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