X-Men: Days of Future Past

[E_CHU_TA!]

I finally got around to seeing First Class the other day. In terms of film-making, I still think that TDK is the best comic book film I’ve seen. However, both X2 and First Class are highly entertaining and more faithful to their comic book origins than the films in The Dark Knight Trilogy. So, I’m looking forward to this new one.

This film’s story is a bit of an unknown. Since filming begins next month, more may be revealed soon. I’ve copied the current cast list from Wikipedia below.
[hr]
The cast will feature characters from the original trilogy of X-Men films and from the prequel X-Men: First Class.

• James McAvoy and Patrick Stewart as Charles Xavier / Professor X
• Michael Fassbender and Ian McKellen as Erik Lehnsherr / Magneto
• Hugh Jackman as Logan / Wolverine
• Jennifer Lawrence as Raven Darkhölme / Mystique
• Nicholas Hoult as Hank McCoy / Beast
• Anna Paquin as Marie / Rogue
• Ellen Page as Kitty Pryde / Shadowcat
• Shawn Ashmore as Bobby Drake / Iceman
• Halle Berry as Ororo Munroe / Storm
• Daniel Cudmore as Peter Rasputin / Colossus
• Fan Bingbing as Clarice Ferguson / Blink

Peter Dinklage, Omar Sy, and Booboo Stewart have also been cast in undetermined roles. Dinklage will portray the film's primary antagonist.[hr]

[E_CHU_TA!]

A new photo suggest that Bolivar Trask is the main villain.

I'd like the big screen Sentinels to visually approximate their comic book counterparts. It's probably too much to hope for a light blue and lavender color scheme. Fox established a boring mainly black movie look from the start. To me, X-men will always be best in bright colors.

[TroyObliX]

I kind of have high hopes for this one, but on the other hand I really loathe the idea of how symbolic it is of the widening gap in bringing the 'entire' Marvel Universe together.

The first X-Trilogy, to be fair, sucks. Parts of it are visually interesting, but it never felt like more than mere moments strung together for me. The interaction of the characters always seemed forced, as if the actors were jabbing at each other between takes about how awful the dialogue was. In the Marvel Studios films, thus far, I have seen characters that I could accept as the characters I already knew and appreciated. In Fox's original X-Films, I never really 'bought' the characters. Rogue maybe, and Jackman is slowly evolving into an acceptable Wolverine (but just barely to be honest), but crying Wolverine though? Wtf. Wretched. And the gangrape they did cinematically to several characters such as Storm, Angel, Jean Grey and Cyclops, not to mention the convolutions of Emma Frost and Deadpool, none of it has me geeked for more from Fox/Marvel productions.

But First Class was a lot of fun, and a far and away superior film experience to anything we got out of the first three, at least from where I was sitting. And that has part of me excited about this one. From what I can recall of the storyline this is supposed to be based on, it's enough of a rollercoaster to be interesting no matter which studio makes it. Just worries me that the vast number of mutant characters involved will become a cross-corporation fiasco for the foreseeable future.

[CoGro]

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/63369

Very cool posters.

Everything I've seen from this movie looks great. Don't let us down, Bryan.

[E_CHU_TA!]

I forgot to update earlier: Trask and William Stryker are confirmed for the film.

[CoGro]

http://www.trask-industries.com/#/home

Viral Marketing begins.

[bearvomit]

Sentinels are coming!

[E_CHU_TA!]

I'm on the fence about the look of the onscreen Sentinels. I concede that the one in the video below is scary.

[flash width=560 height=315]http://www.youtube.com/v//92YBR9gEyYI[/flash]

[Hokusai]

[The_Somnambulist]

Why? CG that bitch.

Doesn't feel like a very agile design. Can't imagine these things looking too cool in battle.

[Hokusai]

That big black metal bar holding it up is probably a bit cumbersome to lug around...

[TroyObliX]

Why? CG that bitch.

Doesn't feel like a very agile design. Can't imagine these things looking too cool in battle.

I kind of like this design. Reminiscent of the classic comic look, but updated to give some sense of functionality and mechanical presence in the modern age.

I dunno', I've seen some industrial robots close to the same size as the above-pictured design, or at least it's limbs, do some powerful and precise movements. If the producers spent enough loot building the practical mechanics needed for it to move believably, I'd prefer the real thing to CGI. Use CGI to remove the clandestine supports that help to make it stand up instead of inserting Optimus Purple.

And yes, I might like it mainly because I'd like to have one with a saddle on its back someday so I can be free to go apeshit when I get old instead of being committed to some institution.

Or, maybe I'd just like to think such a thing could exist someday, and seeing an actual example interact with real actors would be great if done right.

If done wrong, well it could look kinda' stupid. I'm betting it works out, but that could just be wishful thinking

[Maveritchell]

Why? CG that bitch.

Doesn't feel like a very agile design. Can't imagine these things looking too cool in battle.

I kind of like this design. Reminiscent of the classic comic look, but updated to give some sense of functionality and mechanical presence in the modern age.

I'm not super-familiar with X-Men comics, but aren't Sentinels supposed to be giant robot golems instead of agile mecha? This design seems to fit the "lumbering around/patrolling city streets while looking imposing" role pretty well. It might be a little small, but other than that it feels a lot like previous representations of Sentinels that I've seen.

[The_Somnambulist]

My only experience with the concept of Sentinels is the animated series of the early '90s. :P

And yeah, they look much smaller here.

[bearvomit]

they REALLY need to have an ED-209 menace to these things. The voice is going to matter a lot. They need to be overbearing, oppressive, slap-a-bitch if you look at them cross, just pit bulls. I want to see them roast future Wolverine to a charred adamantium husk!

[CoGro]

The design is modern but I agree that the voice will be key to making the sentinels come alive.

As much as I enjoy the ideas behind the DOFP story, I don't think the resolution ever paid off. I do believe that if Wolverine is going back to fix the future, we should see a "corrected" timeline where Jean and Scott are still alive. As far as I'm concerned, the dystopian alternate universe is X3.

[CoGro]

http://ca.ign.com/articles/2013/10/29/w ... st-trailer

Awesome

[Hokusai]

How are they going to explain the end of Wolverine? It looks like we will have a present day Xavier that has been resurrected or a future Xavier that has come back to the present? Yet in these vids we see future Xavier in the future... What am I missing?

[Longtime_Sunshine]

If the X-Movies took place in the "Not Too Distant Future," this takes place in the actual "Distant Future" and the war Magneto warned about in X1 and X2 didn't turn out to be the one at the end of The Last Stand, but an actual war that happened sometime in the past that the First Class gang were involved in? There's an awful lot of ret-con that will need to take place. I'm not worried about it, considering no one is considering all of these issues more seriously than Bryan Singer. I trust all the questions will be answered and addressed.

[Ascovel]

To be honest the teaser made me immediately think "Mortal Kombat 2: Annihilation". I'm not sure if this was a better idea than a normal First Class sequel.

[CoGro]

I think the motivation was that they wanted to fix the continuity issues created by last stand and maybe origins wolverine. What better way to do that than with a time travel story.

I too would still like a sequel with the first class cast only, but I think this film will mostly take place in 1973 anyway.

[501ST]

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/29489/ ... ew-costume

[CoGro]

His helmet at the end of First Class was perfect.

Should have stuck with that.

[Cryostar]

I like this one better....more suitable to the cause.

[Chostomo]

'X-Men: Apocalypse' Announced for May 2016

[Chostomo]

Quicksilver - DOFP version: WTF?

[Cryostar]

I didn't get it either. Sunspot didn't look like sunspot.

[CoGro]

New trailer. It is awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6acRHWnfZAE

[Hokusai]

I love the look of fear on Jean Lucs face in the middle of that trailer. Chilling.

[Hokusai]

Ummm...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHGtWToCxQo

[Chostomo]

New Mutant Skills on Display in First Clip

[Hokusai]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsjtg7m1MMM

but... im sorry, this looks awesome. Im not a sheep, but this turns me on.

[CoGro]

And the best movie of the summer goes to...

I need to sleep before ejaculating my thoughts. Just know that this is a must see. It's also a giant "fuck you" to Brett Ratner and it made the audience in my theatre cheer.

If only he can keep his focus on X-Men and not young boys, Bryan Singer does wonders for this franchise.

[Hokusai]

How are they going to explain the end of Wolverine? It looks like we will have a present day Xavier that has been resurrected or a future Xavier that has come back to the present? Yet in these vids we see future Xavier in the future... What am I missing?

did they cover any of this?

[Chostomo]

Post Credits Scene

En Sabah Nur???

Apokalypse???

Somebody download it please before they take it down!

[Hokusai]

just saw... loved the wrap up

[CoGro]

How are they going to explain the end of Wolverine? It looks like we will have a present day Xavier that has been resurrected or a future Xavier that has come back to the present? Yet in these vids we see future Xavier in the future... What am I missing?

did they cover any of this?

They don't explain it directly - they let the audience make the inference from X3 and Wolverine that Xavier figured out a way to materialize and leave it at that.

Patrick Stewart Xavier is seen exclusively in the future.

More thoughts coming, but I think it's fair to say that this film completely disregards X-Men Origins.

[Cryostar]

It's rare that CoGro and I agree on movies, but I'll say that this movie went a long way in righting the X-Men ship at Fox.

The sheep in me still had trouble, but as a movie, it wasn't bad. In fact, it was right enough that I wouldn't mind seeing what Fox does with Apocolypse next movie.

Best movie of the year, no, but I liked Dinklage. He scenes weren't great, but he played trask well. Jennifer Lawrence stole this one, I think. Her and McAvoy.

I can't wait to get a clean copy of this, so many easter eggs in it, hard to get any of them, they run by so fast.

The After credits scene could have been a bit further up in the credits, if you ask me, but it's worth the wait.

[CoGro]

I'm a fan of the comics (if ASM was my first love, UXM was my second) and 90s cartoon series. I was a fan of Singer's solid, but limited X-Men and a big fan of X2. I would have loved to have seen what he would have done with X3 and I'm sure Singer wishes he could travel back and time to prevent that abomination and erase Superman Returns. Between X3 and Origins, I thought the franchise was dead.

I was an enormous fan of First Class. At the time it was released I believed it was the best "film" of the series mostly because of how incredible Fassbender was and how his action devoured everything else on screen. That said, First Class completely changed much of the established canon from the films and it was going to be a real uphill battle to "fix" the continuity problems the filmmakers created. I saw a point somewhere about how Marvel has pretty much mastered cinematic universe building and it is now the standard all other franchises must live by.

Days of Future Past wasn't a masterstroke by Fox / Singer: it was their only play. They had so thoroughly fucked up character origins (two Moira's, two Trask's, different stories for how Xavier and Magneto met, different background's for Raven, etc) that they had no other option but to completely reboot the series.

Don't get me wrong, there's still a lot of issues with the X-Men continuity and the only way to make sense of it is to completely ignore events and dialogue from the earlier films, but I think they're at the point now where they can say "only First Class and Days of Future Past are Canon, so consider the other films alternate timelines or glorified fan fiction." So that's where we're at there.

I haven't said a thing about the film yet, so let's get to that. I'm one of those fans that can appreciate comic adaptations even if they don't line up exactly with comic lore as long as the quality of the storytelling is high and the sacrifices and changes made are understandable. From that standpoint, I don't think there's anything "wrong" with the adaptation of this classic story to film. The story decisions (sending Wolverine back and not Kitty, making Trask the target and not Kelly) make total sense, and the twists (the future actually gets fixed, Mystique and Eric aren't close yet, etc) work just right. There was this dork in front of me at the theatre that literally went on a 10 minute rant after the credits rolled bitching about how Kitty shouldn't have had this new power and how Magneto should have killed Wolverine by sending him into space and yada yada yada. It was like watching Comic Book Guy bitch and it was the most juvenile shit I've ever heard. It's a movie about people that have the ability to transform into ICE and manipulate the weather. Is it so unbelievable for me to buy that a woman who can walk through solid objects might also discover a way to transfer someone's consciousness through time? Jean Grey is a telepath and a telekinetic so why can't Kitty have multiple powers? In short, who really gives a shit about this sort of stuff if it serves the purpose of the story. Singer wanted Kitty to play a role in the time travel as a shout out to the original story and so she got this new power. End of story.

I think it's the best film in the series. Singer gets the best performances out of his casts and there are several very poignant scenes between key characters this go around. The script drags in a few spots to move the plot forward, but it's rare for comic book movies to bat 1.000 in this category, especially with such a complex plot involving time travel. This movie feels like it has the franchise on its shoulders and bears the weight very well.

Things I especially loved:

- Quicksilver's scene rivals Nightcrawler's as the best action piece of the series
- Ottman bringing back the X2 theme - got me totally hyped and finally happy to hear a comic book movie repeat a familiar tune
- Jennifer Lawrence - lots of call backs to X2's Mystique and certainly the most complex we've seen the character portrayed
- The ending in the future. It was absolute sheep nerdgasm type stuff. Mouth agape and nerd teary-eyed that Singer pulled it off
- Future battle scenes - most X-men-like action the series has seen. The teamwork in the sequences was pulled right from the panels and the cartoon
- Linking Eric to JFK and the mutant "problem" with the Nixon tapes
- Allowing the old cast to end on a high note

Things I would like answered:

- How does this effect Wolverine and Weapon X? Will he ever get experimented on?
- I want to know the details of how Xavier came back.
- Give me a solution, any solution, for the black Trask and the old / young McTaggert
- What the hell's the deal with Sabretooth? Give me some definitive word on whether or not I should ignore Origins' version of all events
- I don't care how Wolverine got metal claws back. I'm going to assume his ally who can manipulate metal had something to do with it

Funny enough, if there's any series that would benefit from a "special edition" it's probably this one. I'm sure Singer would love to pull a Lucas and edit lines of dialogue and change entire scenes to get the ship properly righted.

I'm going to check it out again tomorrow and update thoughts and see if I can spot more easter eggs.

EDIT: Saw it again and like it more. I really need a copy of this to scan for easter eggs. Things move too quick to catch files Mystique is going through, etc.

http://popwatch.ew.com/2014/05/23/x-men ... ture-past/

Surprisingly, EW has one of the best breakdowns of the current X-Universe. At the very least, it's a good read.

[E_CHU_TA!]

I finally saw this yesterday. It’s a very well-written and well-conceived movie. The Quicksilver and RFK stadium sequences were both awe-inspiring. (Did these two ideas come from Kinberg or Singer?)

I didn’t catch on to Kitty having a “new” power until after the fact. It’s doesn’t bother me.

What does bother me is the oh-by-the way deaths of Banshee and Frost. I understand the need to explain why they don’t appear in the film. But, simply killing them because you don’t know what to do with them seems lazy.

I also wish that Iceman, Colossus, and Storm weren’t there for cameo purposes. In the comics, these characters have their own stories to tell.

I thought that McAvoy and Fassbender gave the best performances in the film by a decent margin. Maybe, it had more to do with the writing than the performances. (Nice callback to the “go fuck yourself” line, btw.)

Jackman was also pretty solid throughout. But, I wonder if there are a number of actors who could do just as well as Logan?

Overall, it seems that the onscreen X-world has become as interesting as the Avengers movie world. It’s too bad they can’t interact.

Future battle scenes - most X-men-like action the series has seen. The teamwork in the sequences was pulled right from the panels and the cartoon

First it was the the Avengers and now it’s this film. What took the movies so long to get to this point?

[yarq]

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[yarq]

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