Episode S03E18 • Citadel

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Episode S03E18 • Citadel

Postby darthpsychotic » February 18th 2011 4:35 pm

February 18 2011

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"Adaptation is the key to survival."

Episode Guide: The Citadel

Episode Air No: 62
Production No: 314

Director: Kyle Dunlevy
Writer: Matt Michnovetz

Synopsis: With help from R2-D2 and a squad of captured battle droids - an elite team of Jedi and Clone Troopers led by Obi-Wan & Anakin attempt to free a captive Jedi General: Even Piell - from an impenetrable prison.

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Postby Gabe » February 18th 2011 8:33 pm

Please don't take this to mean I'm not a fan or anything like that - but I am so glad the last arc is over. Don't know if I could have endure any more of that ... lol.

I'm sure those episodes will grow on me with time, but for now that is over - tonight's episode looks promising, as do the episodes coming in the next few weeks.
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Postby Alexrd » February 18th 2011 9:25 pm

I agree. It's good to be back to normal. I'll have to see this tomorrow morning, though. It's over 2 a.m here.
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Postby Topeka » February 18th 2011 11:50 pm

Bravo. Tarkin was characteristically perfect and I hope he replaces Yularen as a recurring character on the show. This episode brought back the classic Star Wars sense of adventure.
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Postby 501ST » February 18th 2011 11:50 pm

Yes, Tarkin was well done and agree the classic SW feel was there in this episode. Good Stuff!
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Postby Maveritchell » February 19th 2011 12:25 am

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Postby darthpsychotic » February 19th 2011 12:43 am



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[align=left]Secrets Revealed

• Osi Sobeck is a Phindian, an alien species that originated in the Expanded Universe, specifically the Jedi Apprentice series published by Scholastic, Inc. The species was first pictured in The Essential Guide to Aliens Species, published by Del Rey Books in 2001. Osi's design hews closely to the art by R.K. Post.

• For James Arnold Taylor's characterization of Osi Sobeck, he performed the dialogue with pauses and inflection inspired by Christopher Walken's distinctive speech patterns.

• Ashley Eckstein, who ordinarily voices Ahsoka Tano, joins James Arnold Taylor, Matt Lanter, Tom Kane, Corey Burton, Cara Pifko, Phil LaMarr, and Gary Scheppke as the voice of a tactical droid. The droid, K2-B4, has been colored to match the Lola Sayu environment: purple and yellow.

• K2-B4's colors also work well as the droid's name is a nod to crewmembers who are fans of the Los Angeles Lakers. When K2-B4's animation model was created, the Lakers won the championship. Kobe Bryant's number 24 translates to K2-B4.

• The texture of the exterior Citadel walls is meant to be visually reminiscent of the Death Star surface when seen from afar.

• During Season One, discussions about getting past droid scans led to Superising Director Dave Filoni and writer Henry Gilory developing the carbon-freezing tactic, though it never made it into an episode. Gilroy later used it in an Expanded Universe Clone Wars comic book story, The Shipyards of Doom. Its use in 'The Citadel' brings it to the screen.

• Some of the smallest asteroids seen orbiting Lola Sayu are re-textured rocks seen floating over Mortis or Iego.

• According to the screens in the Citadel orbital security stations, the Separatist shuttle that R2-D2 commands is an escort shuttle, class type B.

• Even Piell is a Jedi Master first seen in Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace. Piell's short height and long ears caused many fans to speculate some sort of relation to Yoda (some called him "the pink Yoda"), but Piell is a distinct species: a Lannik. Though Even Piell is male, in the live action movie, he was portrayed by a woman: Michaela Cotrell.[/align]
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Postby royalguard96 » February 19th 2011 8:48 am

Great point about Tarkin replacing Yularen as our "go-to admiral" for the remainder of the series. He was very well-done, both in animation style and in his voice work. Had some really nice nuances in that performance.
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Postby JWFan » February 19th 2011 8:56 am

Topeka wrote:Bravo. Tarkin was characteristically perfect and I hope he replaces Yularen as a recurring character on the show. This episode brought back the classic Star Wars sense of adventure.


Really enjoyed the episode. Again, very well animated and I like what they are doing in the series stylistically. And it was interesting to see Max Zorin make it into the CW.

So what does everyone make of Anakin's line that the Citadel was designed in case any Jedi "lost their way"? Is it a common enough occurrence that they need to build a fortress for it?
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Postby Max Rebo » February 19th 2011 1:41 pm

Fun! That was just plain good old fashionned Star Wars adventure, reminds me of the best Season 1 moments which had this old school feel too, that's what first caught me in this series. Nice that they get back at something like this after going sooo far in the 2 previous arc. In both cases TCW team handle it so greatly. :chewbacca: :mrgreen:

As you said, Tarkin was excellently done ... Damn this last exchange with Anakin WAS a Vader/Tarkin conversation for real! Matt Lanter did an amazing job too, he really sounded like vader at this moment.
Now can't wait to see more of those 2 and the rest! Even Piell aka The Russian was cool, just nice to have a new council member in there ... Also Ahsoka was :heavymetal:
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Postby darthpsychotic » February 19th 2011 3:31 pm

From tonight's episode it was announced that the next broadcast Counter Attack is two week's from now and from Clone Wars Chewbacca - the two-part season finale Padawn Lost and Wookiee Hunt premiere April 1 2011. The title of Episode 20 - which is the end of the Tarkin Trilogy has yet to be determined.

Episode S0319 • Counter Attack • March 4
Episode S0320 • To Be Announced
Episode S0321 • Padawan Lost • April 1
Episode S0322 • Wookiee Hunt • April 1

Last week's episode Ghosts Of Mortis has been upgraded SKY OAR (PAL).
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Postby JWFan » February 19th 2011 4:34 pm

Lame gaps in the schedule are lame. :what:
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Postby Mike_Droideka » February 19th 2011 4:44 pm

Is there some type of public holiday or something on next weekend?
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Postby Alexrd » February 19th 2011 5:20 pm

Well, at least it gives time for Sky Movies to catch up.

And there's also another gap after this arc.

darthpsychotic wrote:Last week's episode Ghosts Of Mortis has been upgraded SKY OAR (PAL).


Is there a version without subtitles?
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Postby Ascovel » February 20th 2011 6:17 pm

YES! This is how good the show used to be once! Loved Tarkin's introduction.

Even animation and editing were back to the high standards of the past.
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Postby darthpsychotic » February 20th 2011 11:51 pm

Is anyone else seeing subtitles on last week's or any previous weeks for that matter? I'm unable to replicate them using Media Player Classic:

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SKY will be showing the two-part season finale earlier than Cartoon Network:

Episode S03E21 • Padawan Lost • March 19 2011
Episode S03E22 • Wookiee Hunt • March 26 2011


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Stephen Stanton • Darth Maul (voice)

Wookiee Hunt's IMDB is showing that Savage Opress and Darth Maul re-appear during Episode S03E22.[/s]
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Postby Topeka » February 21st 2011 1:06 am

Subtitles are not burned in and can be enabled or disabled by your choice of media player. But if you're using anything other than Media Player Classic, you're doing it wrong. :schoolyou:
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Postby Alexrd » February 21st 2011 4:48 am

darthpsychotic wrote:Is anyone else seeing subtitles on last week's or any previous weeks for that matter? I'm unable to replicate them using Media Player Classic.


I only saw subtitles in Ghosts of Mortis.
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Postby Ascovel » February 21st 2011 4:13 pm

darthpsychotic wrote:Clancy Brown • Savage Opress (voice)
Stephen Stanton • Darth Maul (voice)

Wookie Hunt's IMDB is showing that Savage Opress and Darth Maul re-appear during Episode S03E22.


To be honest I try to not even think about how they brought Maul back. I'm afraid death in Star Wars will seem like a passing disease from this episode on.
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Postby darthpsychotic » February 21st 2011 6:41 pm

As most of you are already aware - IMDB can be edited by anyone who is registered there so Savage Maul may not appear. Below is a description of Episode 22 Wookiee Hunt from SKY's article on the return of Chewbacca:

In the final two episodes, Padawan Lost and Wookie Hunt, Chewbacca will be joining forces with Ahsoka Tano in a storyline that sees our heroes do battle with a group of evil Trandoshans, the reptilian species of regular villain Bossk.


From the SKY article - the plot doesn't seem inclusive for a potential Zabrak appearance or Lil Boba & Separtist Friends for that matter.
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Postby E_CHU_TA! » February 21st 2011 8:17 pm

This year, Lucasfilm has about a rate of 95% when it comes to spoilers. Neither Greedo, Maul, Tarkin, or Chewie were revealed to the public before Lucasfilm has chosen to do so. As such, I’m going to assume that (other than the Sky summary) nothing legitimate has leaked about the finale. The only real “secret” to be revealed early this year was Quinlan Vos; and that got out through Hasbro.

darthpsychotic wrote: The title of Episode 20 - which is the end of the Tarkin Trilogy has yet to be determined.

Episode S0320 • To Be Announced


I doubt the title hasn't been decided. I'm going to guess that it reveals something important about the plot. Maybe Domino Squad finally gets finished off?
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Postby CommanderBly » February 21st 2011 9:20 pm

E_CHU_TA! wrote:I doubt the title hasn't been decided. I'm going to guess that it reveals something important about the plot. Maybe Domino Squad finally gets finished off?


If you mean "finished off" as in death, then it would be a waste. We first saw them in the episode "Rookies" back in season 1, got to see their past in season 3, 2 from the surviving squad get promoted to the title of an ARC Trooper, and we saw them in last week's episode. I don't think they'll bite the dust any time soon. It would be pretty shocking to seem them get killed off at the end of the arc, but it must be in an epic fashion :heavymetal:
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Postby darthpsychotic » February 21st 2011 11:08 pm

The use of the term 'To Be Determined' was meant by us not finding it out yet. Hopefully it's omission from various schedules does mean it's revelatory.

Since this series still employs people, there isn't going to be a lot of stuff getting out that shouldn't be getting out. Still, it would have been nice to know of Qui-Gon, Tarkin, Chewbacca, and even Carbonite when we were watching the school lunchroom episode.
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Postby Gabe » February 22nd 2011 12:25 am

Uh ... yeah, I'll take one Ahsoka in Carbonite to go ;-P

Great episode, we are back on track. And understand what Topeka said about maybe Tarkin replacing Yularen, he was very well done, well voiced. It felt kinda like a season one episode, a sence of adventure. And finaly, I can't say it enough, omg Ahsoka, she's so beautiful.
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Postby darthpsychotic » February 22nd 2011 4:18 pm

Lucasfilm released a statement regarding Savage Maul:

The IMDB listing for our S3 Season Finale contains some incorrect information – but while neither Darth Maul nor Savage Opress will be featured in the episode, we will be marking the Clone Wars debut of Chewbacca, one of the Star Wars Saga’s most iconic and beloved characters.
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Postby E_CHU_TA! » February 22nd 2011 8:45 pm

CommanderBly wrote:If you mean "finished off" as in death, then it would be a waste. We first saw them in the episode "Rookies" back in season 1, got to see their past in season 3, 2 from the surviving squad get promoted to the title of an ARC Trooper, and we saw them in last week's episode. I don't think they'll bite the dust any time soon. It would be pretty shocking to seem them get killed off at the end of the arc, but it must be in an epic fashion :heavymetal:


I think it would be more tragic and poignant than wasteful. To paraphrase a trooper from the Clone Cadets episode: the name Domino Squad implies that they're all going to fall. So, even if Echo and Fives escape this arch, I don’t foresee a happy ending for them.
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Postby darthpsychotic » February 22nd 2011 9:32 pm

[align=left]COUNTER ATTACK PREVIEW VIDEO

[flash width=640 height=385]http://www.youtube.com/v/28nG0pP_tJg?fs=1&hl=en_US&rel=0&hd=1[/flash][/align]
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Postby 501ST » February 23rd 2011 12:04 am

Looks Good!!!
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Postby darthpsychotic » February 25th 2011 11:36 am

Episode 20's title revealed: Citadel Rescue


Episode S03E19 • Counter Attack • March 4
Episode S03E20 • Citadel Rescue • March 11
Episode S03E21 • Padawan Lost • March 19
Episode S03E22 • Wookiee Hunt • March 26


UPDATE: The above schedule is based upon Friday being on the 4th with 21 & 22 based on SKY dates. 720p upgraded to SKY OAR
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How did Maul lose his horn?

Postby sithwitch.com » March 2nd 2011 1:18 pm

darthy note: merged from Witches Of The Mist:


How did Maul lose a horn in this episode?

At 18 minutes he is fighting Obi & Anakin, cut to Sith infighting, at 19 minutes Maul still fights Jedi, but now sans one horn.

This is especially clear when he returns to Dagob - I mean Dathomir. So, how did he lose the horn? Was it Anakin, Obi, or self-inflicted?
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Postby Alexrd » March 2nd 2011 6:20 pm

Maul?
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Re: How did Maul lose his horn?

Postby JWFan » March 2nd 2011 7:17 pm

sithwitch.com wrote:How did Maul [sic] lose a horn in this episode?


It got cut off by a lightsaber, probably Obi-wan's. Because he's the one that's more likely to be pussyfooting around and just cutting off horns. Anakin would go for the fucking throat.

And before I get shit for this, Obi-wan's adversaries do have a habit of showing up not-so-dead as when he left them.
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Postby E_CHU_TA! » March 2nd 2011 10:34 pm

To be fair, he cut Maul in half. I wouldn't call that "pussyfooting."

Besides,"alive" can be a relative term. Maul could be floating comatose in two separate Bacta tanks or plugged into machine a la Captain Pike.

After the curve balls this season, I’m half-expecting Jango to show-up next year. (Sure someone got decapitated on Geonosis, but who’s to say it wasn't a clone decoy.) Maybe he’ll rescue his son from prison?
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Postby darthpsychotic » March 2nd 2011 11:15 pm

Just a heads up - we have a lot people here from all over the world who have difficultly with the American language (including many who live here in America).

What I get from "sithwitch" is that they used the name "Maul" instead of using "Savage" and was pondering what happened to his sliced horn:

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After this dilemma is solved I hope nobody gets mad if the posts are moved into The Citiadel thread or even the Trash Compactor.
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Postby JWFan » March 3rd 2011 5:31 am

Yeah, I was just messin'. Although I do find it strange that with the possible return of Maul in the CW, Grievous is now the only major baddie that Obi-wan is able to off successfully. And that wasn't even with his lightsaber.

He has shown a penchant for cutting off body parts throughout the saga (arms, legs, . . . horns), but other than Maul they really haven't been killing strokes. Whose to say that if he lived past ANH we wouldn't have gotten an epic showdown with a Cannon-armed Ponda Baba looking for revenge?
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Postby sithwitch.com » March 3rd 2011 5:34 pm

Correction. Savage lost his horn.
Maul lost his legs, etc.
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Postby darthpsychotic » March 4th 2011 4:57 pm

SKY should be caught up with US so hopefully original aspect ratio hits first. :)

[align=center]COUNTER ATTACK PREVIEW VIDEO II[/align]
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[flash width=640 height=385]http://www.youtube.com/v/Wu3gljdAOLk?fs=1&hl=en_US&rel=0&hd=1[/flash]
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March 4 2011

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"Anything that can go wrong will."

Episode Guide: Counter Attack

Episode Air No: 62
Production No:

Director: Brian Kalin O'Connell
Writer: Matt Michnovetz

Synopsis: With freed prisoners in their possession and the brutal warden attempting desperately to thwart them, Obi-Wan and Anakin search for a way out of the Citadel and back to Coruscant. The prison, however, has more traps, perils and pitfalls in s tore for them than they had imagined and they must work past their differences if they are to escape.[/align]
[/spoil]
[align=center]EPISODE GUIDE PREVIEW[/align]
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Postby Alexrd » March 4th 2011 5:10 pm

darthpsychotic wrote:SKY should be caught up with US so hopefully original aspect ratio hits first. :)


:heavymetal:
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Postby CommanderBly » March 5th 2011 2:52 am

CommanderBly wrote:If you mean "finished off" as in death, then it would be a waste. We first saw them in the episode "Rookies" back in season 1, got to see their past in season 3, 2 from the surviving squad get promoted to the title of an ARC Trooper, and we saw them in last week's episode. I don't think they'll bite the dust any time soon. It would be pretty shocking to seem them get killed off at the end of the arc, but it must be in an epic fashion :heavymetal:

E_CHU_TA! wrote:I think it would be more tragic and poignant than wasteful. To paraphrase a trooper from the Clone Cadets episode: the name Domino Squad implies that they're all going to fall. So, even if Echo and Fives escape this arch, I don’t foresee a happy ending for them.


[spoil]Well, you sure called it man. Sucks that Echo died ... Hopefully Fives lives on to carry the memory of Domino Squad.[/spoil]
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