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Thanks to the heads up by Darth Zidious.

This looks like the ILM model shot of GG on some SW magazine cover.

I like the worn look

At first I thought it was the cover of the new SW Insider magazine. Since they changed who makes the mags, Pabs said the next issue would be a cross between the new mag and the old mag. So that part of it fits. But the issue number doesn't match up at all and they had Grievous on the cover only a couple of months ago.

Yet with the Rick McCallum production update stuff it must be...

Damn he looks pretty cool in that shot. Hopefully ILM will make him very convincing. That combined with the possibility GO could be doing his voice makes very pleased about how the good general is coming along here.

It looks very cool. I hope it's not a fake.

Lord Mauly Mall at the JC says it's the same pic as in the CineFX magazine.

This is the UK Star Wars mag, you can see the price is in pounds on the barcode, it's the real deal.

Like Darth Zidious said there's a high rez pic in the new Cinefex magazine without the words obstructing it.

Kick-ass pic, much more sinister looking than any of the other pics.

I gotta admit, Grievous looks pretty badass in that shot.



Yeah, definitely adds a nice touch. The eyes look great too; I was worried about how they would come off, but it looks like ILM nailed them perfectly. Can't wait to see him in all his glory.

Wow, simply awesome!
It looks so real I love it!

Someone?

It is from the UK SW mag. In the corner the price is in £.

Wow, that pic is acutally scary as hell...the little kids are gonna be shiting in thier pants.

Now that Gary Oldman may be voicing this madman ... Greivous is gonna be one of the coolest villians ever.

Very very cool. I always liked the look of Grievous, but this is better than I imagined. It looks much more like someone who's wearing a mask now, rather than an all-in-one robot head. And yeah, maybe he carved that mask out of a jedi's skull!

he looks like a Slipknot/Manson hybrid!

I dunno if I like it as much...
I wish the faceplate didn't look so flat, and had more of a countour to it.
The sidefins don't look as sharp and detailed as the concept art fins.

Looks fantastic. I can not wait to see the full ILM model.

I agree -- the face plate looks like bone. I think his finished look is very cool. This movie is really shaping up.

I've gotta agree, Kael's mask looks awsome.

You lost me. Isn't Kael a Naboo captain in a video game? Grievous is an alien.

He's referring to General Kael in Willow, who some would argue appears a bit like Grievous.

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Thats the actual fold out from the magazine. Note you can see the top of the head, it looks more round than it did with the letters in the way. The fins on the side are also more visible.

Nice. I hope that poster's in the next issue of Insider.

While I will be the first to admit that it looks great I just worry about the relevance of the character.

From all of the plot synopsis of Ep. III that I have read General Greivous doesn't do much in the movie besides running from Obi-won and getting killed by a blaster.

Why does Lucas seem to always introduce badass villians and then do next to nothing with them before 86ing them?

I'll add my voice to the chorus of: Me likey!


He's shaping up much more ominously than I first thought.


Besides, throwaway villians are nothing new in SW. ANH had Tarkin. ESB had Boba Fett. ROTJ had Jabba.

Ah. I think he looks more like Ultron.

You forgot about Darth Maul!

I guess what you say is true--

Besides, the heroes have to have somebody to kill right? Bring on the General!

...and Jango Fett.

Are you some of you guys still trying to wrap your brains around the fact that every Star Wars movie has a new villain?

How many times during the making of the prequels have you heard the term "new bad guy"?

I don't mind that there's a new disposable bad guy. I understand his place in the saga.

What I don't like is that he wields lightsabers and kills Jedi with them. But I'll just have to get over it.

In their own unique way the new bad guys take on the good guys. Maul, Jango, Dooku, and Grievous all do their respective amount of damage to the characters in the larger story. Each contribution, however small, plays a part in telling the epic story of generations of conflict that took place a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...

Lucas just makes possibly the most kick-ass villains in cinema. So good in fact that people are disappointed at their exit by the end of the respective episode. But in turn they generate interest and eventually dollars earned by the plethora of products of the 'new bad guy'.

There's nothing wrong with the bright flame that burns twice as fast because it's wonderful to experience while it lasts.

I am not trying to wrap my brain around anything. I understand what you are saying though. Each movie brings us a new villian that is usually diaposed of at some point. I am definitely not trying to overstate Maul's importance in the SW saga-- just that he was a cool-as-Hell villian!

And that is a testament to Lucas and his conceptual abilities.

Of course you are right about Lucas' ability to create memorable villians.
He did create Darth Vader-- whom is the best villian ever to grace the screen. A true icon of cinema.

General Grievous looks to be the most interesting villian in the PT thus far.
Gary Oldman rocks! I am so happy about that development.

WAY TO GO LUCAS!

Just remember that mine are always valid complaints.

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There is HiRes version of the poster.

I understand the hesitance in seeing Grievous fight with lightsabers, but I think it'll probably be a jaw-dropping moment.

I agree. Grievous seems to mock the jedi by using their weapons. Which is why its even more ironic Obi-Wan will kill the general with a laser blast.

Lucas said he was an apprentice to Dooku and naturally all of apprentices use lightsabers.

Nah.... Lucas never said that.

Pablo said GG would be sidekick but he didn't mention anything about being apprentice.

In the GG webdoc, he says:

"All of these films have the ultimate bad guy, which is the Emperor. But in addition to that there is the sidekick, be him Darth Vader in episodes four, five and six, Darth Maul in episode one, or Count Dooku in episode two."

Then there is an audio edit, I think. Then he continues:

"So, we're always trying to work with a sidekick, an apprentice to the Dark Lord."

It's not clear if this means anything.

I always figured GG to be a Force-adept but not necessarily a Sith. Remember that Dooku is still alive at the beginning of Ep. III and having Greivous as an apprentice would break the Sith "rule of two".

That doesn't mean that the organic part of Greivous cannot be somehow Force-adept, weild light sabers and kill Jedi.

Grievous does not have the Force.

Lucas was just rambling. Remember that originally Lucas wasn't sure whether or not Grievous was going to be all droid or only part droid. This was after the script was written, or at least planned out. At that point, if Lucas planned for Grievous to be a Force user, the idea of him being all droid would never have crossed his mind.

He is not "all droid", he is cyborg-- part organic.

A cyborg that can weild four light sabers at once that is not somewhat Force adept? Hmm......

So is it the cybernetics that allow him to weild four light sabers at once?

A lightsaber doesn't make you a Jedi or a Sith. Nor does a blaster automatically make you Han Solo.

I would think so. Maybe he has some nice Pentium X processors calculating his movements?

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Never implied that it did, I was merely speculating that Grievous may be Force-adept. I think he would need to be in order to use four light sabers at once and take down Jedi.

Of course it is merely speculation on my part and we won't know for sure untill Lucas decides to reveal it.

And herein lies the problem with Grievous, and why I don't like him at all. He wields all these lightsabers, and is able to kill Jedi with them - and yet he is not Force sensitive (I'm 99.99% sure of that - see my explanation above).

And I don't want him to be Force Sensitive either. Cause that would ruin the rule of two.

See how Grievous just fucks everything up?

Yes I know. The point I was making is that when Lucas was writing the script he didn't yet know whether Grievous was gonna be all droid or part droid (as revealed in the Grievous webdoc). And if he knew that Grievous was gonna be a force user, he wouldn't have even been considering an "all droid" character because a droid can't use the Force.

See what I mean?

I do- but you know as well as I do that GL is known for changing his mind a lot. I dunno we'll see soon though...

Personally I think that they need to somehow explain how a droid/cyborg can mop up Jedi with ease. Know what I mean?

It doen't ruin the rule of two Sith if Grievous is merely a dark Force user instead of a Sith. That is the best way for them to explain it IMO!

Yes, Lucas' penchant for changing things is troubling in this case. I do think they need to explain it, but I hope it's nothing more than a reference to Mace, Obi-Wan and Yoda's chat in AOTC about the Jedi becoming too arrogant and complacent. Maybe they haven't been practicing because they figured they were too good for that. Etc etc.

As for a "Dark Force user" that isn't a Sith, that's EU territory. I seriously hope that George doesn't take that route. If he does I may retaste my popcorn in the theater.

I'm not really bothered at all by the fact Grievous uses lightsabers but I'll add this to the subject. Let's first forget about the CW cartoons, they don't apply really. It's possible GG is not really that skilled with a lightsaber at all or be his weapon of choice. Those blasters seen in the BTH pic are probably his main weapons.

From what we know so far about Ep3, there are two instances where GG uses lightsabers. First time he uses one is to execute Shaak Ti, but she's probably defenseless, not much skill involved there. Han used one to cut open a Taun Taun. Did that make him skillful with a saber or Force adept? No. Not big deal there.

The second time he uses a lightsaber will be in his fight with Obi-Wan. We don't know anything about this fight so far except GG will wield 4 sabers. But what if he uses them as a final attack? He could already have Obi beaten but gets cocky and decides to uses a Jedi's weapon against him especially since Obi might be the only Jedi that's given him so muchh trouble. But what happens, he gets a blaster shot up the guts. Which would drive home that fact that only a Jedi or Sith can truly wield a saber with any type of skill.

There will be some nice irony there too, since the first time we see him try to use sabers in combat he gets done in by a weapon that Obi-Wan will consider clumsy and random.

I'm not sure if I made any type of point but there it is anyway.