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First of all, this post is not a load of crap like you probably think it is.
There is someone who goes by the name of "MagnoliaFan" on the http://www.originaltrilogy.com forums.
He has created a very excellent edit of Episode One.
He calls it "Balance of the Force". It is very great.

SPECS:
There have are also been a lot of dialogue trims to enhance performance, and extra cuts applied to the film for pacing and plot. NO Midi-hoobie-doobies or talk of virgin births either! There have also been some changes to the SPFX of the film itself such as Lord Sidious' face has been darkened under his cloak so that you cannot tell as easily that he is Ian McDiarmid. There is an alternate title and crawl, and the Federation is much much more sinister in this version.

Re-Edit runs 1:57.06 and features 23 chapters is encoded in MPEG2 VBR and has an average bit rate of 4.75 MBps - the audio is re-mastered Dolby Digital 5.1 (448Kbps) , contains most of the deleted scenes, some alternate music, a completely different edit on the pod race, Anakin is quieter and darker, aliens speak in foreign languages and are subtitled – all the subtitles can be turned of as well (but you lose the new story line)

Here is a list of SOME of the changes made from "The Phantom Edit" to make "Balance of the Force".

Alternate Title and Crawl, giving more history on the Jedi, Republic and Trade Federation
The plot is also altered from revolving around taxation to slave labor.
Opening crawl music replaced with music from EP IV UE soundtrack (a little longer and it just sounded better to me)
Cockpit scene en route to the Federation cruiser was ommitted
New music cue landing in Fed docking bay
Neimoidians are dubbed and subtitled as is TC-14 when talking to Neimoidians. Most of their dialogue has been totally rewritten.
First scene with TC-14 and the Neimoidians is expanded considerably with additional dialogue.
New music cue leading into Darth Sidious' appearance.
Sidious' face is digitally shadowed under the hood hiding his face.
Sidious' line "I don't want this stunted slime in my sight again!" has been altered to "I don't want this slime in my sight again!"
New sound effect added as gun turrret swings around.
The reaction scene in the cockpit has been omitted.
The sound effects for the explosion of the cruiser has been enhanced.
New sound effect added for the battle droid turning off the hologram of Nute Gunray.
Battle Droids dubbed and subtitled when speaking to each other or Neimoidians.
Some Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon dialogue is trimmed from the battle onboard the Federation ship.
Dialogue trimmed in "It's an invasion army!" scene.
Additional little plot twist added in the Viceroy's viewscreen scene with Queen Amidala.
Dialogue trimmed in Naboo council"Senator Palpatine?" scene.
Hologram scene between Nute and Droid commander is cut.
Jar Jar is dubbed and subtitled.
Jar Jar is a pompous ass who believes he saved Qui-Gon's life by dragging him down and thinks Qui-Gon owes him the life debt.
It is also revealed that the Gungans desise humans with a passion... except for Jar Jar, who doesn't mind humans so much, seeing as the Gungans hate him even more than they do humans.
Otoh Gungah referred to by name.
"The Invasion is on schedule, my Lord" scene has been moved to follow Jar Jar's debut, breaking up the Gungan antics.
Boss Nass is now Governor Nass.
Lots of alternate exposition in Otoh Gunga. Jar Jar is revealed to have been thrown out several times. The Gungans hate the Naboo people because humans stole a Gungan relic, the Kyber crystal from them, explaining the big glwoing globe at the end of the film.
Nass is leaning toward supporting the Federation against the Naboo, pre Jedi mind trick.
A sound effect is added to the Jedi mind trick.
There is a little trim to the end of the scene.
In the sub scene it is revealed that Jar Jar was the Gungan charged with guarding the Kyber crystal. He was sleeping on the job and allowed the crystal to be stolen.
The second underwater sequence has been cut and replaced with a recut version of the waterfall scene.
The Viceroy, having captured Amidala plans to force her to offer the people of Naboo as an alternative uncompensated workforce in retaliation to her lobbying to outlaw their slave labor forces.
Instead of telling the droid commander "Process them", he nonchalantly orders the droid to to "Shoot her companions."
When Qui-Gon and co rescue the Queen, Jar Jar claims credit for it, after lying face down on the ground for the whole fight.
Some dialogue is trimmed outside of the hangar.
The battle droid's "joke" toward Qui-Gon has been cut.
The "You stay here" scene between Jar Jar and Obi-Wan has been cut.
The entire Naboo escape has been resquenced so that they lose shields right away, but don't regain them until the last minute.
Some additional dialogue is trimmed during the escape.
Some dialogue is trimmed in the "Here Master, Tatooine" scene.
The line "Not for a Sith" has been trimmed out of the Darth Maul introduction scene.
As an homage, the Viceroy's aide says, "This deal is getting worse all the time!" in said scene.
Some dialogue trimmed in the Artoo intro scene.
The Padme and Jar Jar scene, cleaning artoo has been cut.
Upon arrival to Tatooine, it is revealed that Qui-Gon is taking Jar Jar with him to Mos Espa because the Queen ordered him to, as she felt he was stinking up the ship.
When Padme is ordered along, Jar Jar wonders if Padme was stinking up the ship as well.
A ship has been digitally painted out of Mos Espa's skyline.
New noises and chatter have been added to the streets in all Mos Espa scenes.
The poop stepping scene has been cut.
When we first come upon Watto, he hums the Cantina song from EP IV for a few seconds before Qui-Gon and co enter.
Watto is considerably harsher toward Anakin in the subtitles.
Jar Jar no longer has slapsticky antics inside the store and the "Are you an angel" scene has been trimmed considerably.
When Qui-Gon tries the mind trick on Watto, he becomes much angrier and throws Qui-Gon out shouting, "Get lost! Come back when you gotta some money!"
As Qui-Gon embarassedly exits the shop, Jar Jar knocks over a bunch of stuff and Watto shouts, "Hey! You break it, you buy it! Eh?!"
Jar Jar's "No again!" speech has been cut.
The scene of Jar Jar stealing the frog has been trimmed.
After Anakin saves Jar Jar from Sebulba, Jar Jar brags that he was about to give Sebulba a beating until that kid got in the way.
The Jira scene has been trimmed to make her less creepy.
Anakin's "very, very dangerous" line has been trimmed to "very dangerous".
Instead of "Hello", Jar Jar remarks "Oh, what a dump." upon seeing Anakin's home.
Anakin's acting is trimmed throughout Threepio's introduction.
Music is replaced throughout the Coruscant balcony scene, using the Imperial march seguewaying into the Emperor's theme. Every piece of sound had to be rebuilt from scratch for the sequence.
Sidious has an alternate line to end the scene, "The Republic will soon be under my countrol."

I love how not only were things removed as in most previous edits, he also adds in new things that make the film better.
I, myself, think this version fits in much better with the original films than the original 'Phantom Menace' did.

For more information, go here: http://www.originaltrilogy.com/forum/me ... readid=987


And FINALLY, to download it.
MagnoliaFans_-_Episode_I_-_Balance_of_the_Force.rar

This is a TORRENT file. It is not the above file itself that actually contains the file.
It is merely a link to download from peers on the torrent network.
To download a torrent file, you need a torrent client. The best is http://www.torrentstorm.com

This download contains an avi rip of the DVD which you can obtain from MagnoliaFan himself for a very small fee. (This is not to cash in on it, but for shipping the disc and the cost of the discs etc)
You can find send him a Private Message at http://www.originaltrilogy.com
His user name is "MagnoliaFan". If you can't reach him, try PMing another user called "Rikter".
My user name there is "Hal 9000", but that doesn't really matter.

And while you are there, sign the petition which is what that site is all about!
Sign the http://www.originaltrilogy.com petition to secure the release of the ORIGINAL VERSIONS of the Original trilogy on DVD.

If you have any questions or concerns about how to obtain "Balance of the Force", contact (once again) MagnoliaFan, Rikter, or Hal 9000 via Private Messaging at http://www.originaltrilogy.com

MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU!

There is also an equally improved edit of Episode II, thanks to MagnoliaFan.

It is, as was BOTF, a distinct improvment. Much of the whiney-annoying Anakin-isms are cleverly edited out or altered. As BOTF, there are many edits that are slight subtle things that you might not not notice right away. They do improve the movie though.
Some scenes have been omitted and sometimes replaced:

The Jedi Library scene has been cut out.
Yoda, Mace, and Obi-Wan has been replaced with simply Obi-Wan and Mace deleted scene where Obi takes flight to Kamino.
The Naboo Queen scene with Sio Bibble (needless scene, plus it somewhat contradicts the new scenes of Padme's family) has also been scrapped.
The lakeside scene where Anakin talks about sand has been cut.
The Picnic scece has (thank God) been cut.
(The above scenes on Naboo have been replaced with the deletec scenes featuring Padme's family. However, the fireplace scene and the dinner scene right before it have been left intact.)
When Obi-Wan hides on an asteroid after the chase and Jango lands on Genosis, it cuts to another scene and back again before he says "Well R4, I think we've waited long enough" implying that they've waited longer than twenty seconds.
Dooku's character has been seriously altered. He is no longer shown as being a Sith. (This doesn't contradict that he is one, but it makes him appear more like a rouge Jedi. much more interesting and less cliche)
Dooku's lightsaber is now yellow-orange to reflect the above. It may sound cheesey, but actually looks very great.
When Mace Windu shows up on Genosis, the shots showing him slowly walk up to Dooku and Jango is cut. It is now more of a surprise when he pulls his saber on Jango. Before it was just "Hmm, there's Mace."
The scene at the end where Dooku reports back to Sidious has been cut, adding to the rogue Jedi and mystery effect.

There are also many more suble edits, cuts, and additions like there were in Balance of the Force.

I highly recommend the both of them.

If you want to purchase them, register at http://www.originaltrilogy.com and PM "MagnoliaFan" "Rikter".
The cost of both edits on DVD is $13 total. That includes shipping and everything. We aren't doing this for money, but we do need to cover costs of shippind and discs and such. We hope you enjoy.

And I also anxiously await MagnoliaFan's future edit of Revenge of the Sith. The title is yet unknown, but we do know that he does indeed plan on editing it to go along with the previous two prequel edits. Wicked cool.
(He also plans on doing the same edit-type deal with the Original Trilogy, but I don't want them. The prequel edits are all I care about. The Original original trilogy is all I ever want. Special Editions Suck.)

MTFBWY

Do you think you can get MagnoliaFan to fix The Magnificent Ambersons?

Re-edits are pointless and self serving. If you don't like the real films, get the fuck over it and find something else to be fanatical about. Don't try to make them yours when they never were in the first place.

And two blank DVDs and shipping does not equal $13, "we're not doing it for the money" my ass. I hope Lucasfilm hunts those two down and sues the shit out of 'em. Peddle your wares elsewhere.

Disgusting.

DVD-Rs run for 1.99$. Even less if you get a big spindle. Say hello to LFL lawyers.

Underground Torrents are the way to go.

Saw a spindle of 50 Memorex DVD-Rs selling for 20 bucks at Best Buy last night.

Jeez, you don't have to flame me if you don't like the idea.

You should download the AVI file for BOTF. There is also one for TCW as well, I forgot to mention that one. Watch them before you decide to hate them.

And it'd be different if we were trying to say these were the only versions. At least the originals are on DVD as a choice.

THere is a disclaimer before the films start:
"It was once said that many of the truths we cling to, depend greatly on our own point of view. This is merely another."

This is not crap. I'm just suggesting them for anyone who might be interested.

As do so many of the "I could do it better" crowd, you completely miss the point.

It doesn't matter whether you say these are the only versions, the better versions, the more satisfying versions, blah blah blah. These aren't your films. You didn't write them, didn't cast them, didn't direct them, didn't produce them. Because YOU'RE happy with your sheep edit doesn't mean that I'm any more interested in seeing them re-edited than I am in seeing a new sheep edit of 2001, Jaws, Psycho, Godfather II or ANY other movie, for that matter.

It's nice to have hobbies. But if you're looking for a pat on the head for having them, you'll have to produce something original first.

In case you didn't read my original post, he *DID* make torrents of his work.

Granted they aren't full fledged DVD folder files, the quality is nearly the same and perfectly reasonable for burning. Purchase the DVDs only if you, like myself, don't have a DVD burner.

More like 50 cents.

I think what M Verta is doing is cool, Especially since he isn't selling or distributing it in anyway. But the shit this cum bubble is selling is faggotry, well ok the slave labor idea is good

Actually, to defend his price: I bought a pack of three dvd-r's at Best Buy for $25. What? Is that $8.33 a piece? Plus shipping and handling? Reasonable pricing, I think.

But, I'm confused. Are they both $13 each or both for $13?

Forgot to mention you bought Double layer (8gig) DVDs. Normal Single layer 4.7 gig DVD-R are much cheaper. 27 bucks for a spindle of 50 on Bestbuy.com.

Just making a point.

And, no. I didn't "forget" to mention it.


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Where can I find these edits at?

Is there a working torrent for this supposed end all be all version of Episode I??






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I got this edit about three or four months ago, as well as the "Clone Wars" (AotC edit).

Pacing is good. Flows nice. There are some of the deleted scenes thrown in but somehow the story seems to move quicker rather than being slower.

I like most of the soundtrack changes too, especially Anakin's podrace sequence (using Luke's Death Star run music). It was weird, though, to hear the Imperial March when Darth Maul lands on Tatooine.

One thing I would have preferred, however, would have been to just do away with most of Jar Jar's antics in the Gungan-Droid Army battle. I think most of it is still there. For the rest of the film, though, making him a pompous ass works well. (He's ANH Han Solo to the 10th degree.)

I like this Anakin not being so damn cheery all the time. He really does come across as less playful, particularly with the Greedo fight scene re-inserted. Still, this is completely contradictory to Lucas' version of Anakin for Episode One. Lucas wanted Anakin to be sugary-sweet so that his eventual turn to the dark side would somehow be more tragic.

And now those of you who have never seen this edit can begin to understand just how different its creator intended it to be from the original beginning of the Star Wars franchise. Many of the Phantom Menace edits out there are hardly edits. A scene is re-inserted, something is removed, and Jar Jar is pushed to the background. With this edit, when you consider the slight change in Anakin's disposition, Jar Jar becoming a hot-head, slavery being the Federation's motication, and even the new meaning behind Boss Nass' glowing spherical ball thing, there's a lot of changes on here. Almost too many for my taste. It's almost like this fan edit despises the original film and wants to tinker with every little thing. There's a noticeable alteration in character/dialogue/music every five minutes.

I'd have liked it simply if the pace was quickened, Anakin given slightly more depth, Jar Jar minimized only during the final battle, and less time interupting the Maul-Kenobi-Jinn duel. That would have been sufficient for a fan-edit for me.

This edit isn't even an edit. The motivations, conflicts, and attitudes are considerably different than the original film. In fact, this edit is a new film in and of itself. It advertises itself as being signficantly different and it is. But since I like the core of the original film, this edit is just too much.

With all this editing going on... I'd prefer to edit the fans.

Seriously... don't these "so called" fans of Star Wars understand that a central theme of the entire saga is LETTING GO.

For fucks sake... let go of the anger and stop trying to control everything. Star Wars is Lucas', not yours.

Speaking of letting go, the last post by the nutless wonder who started this thread is more than 7 months old.

We all know it blows. Let the thread die.

Balance of the Force is good.

(slinks away into the night)

It's not that good. I'll stick with the official version besides GL will go back and change it some day. But trying to sell that shit? Smarten the fuckup. Balance of the force as a title? too sheep.

Y'know...someone over at OT.com claims that LFL knows about Magnoliafan and appreciates his work...

Something smell like bullshit to you? I can't believe the arrogance over there. Just found it very amusing that the site praises him like a deity.

He was invited to Skywalker Ranch. That much is true.

You're shitting me.

He was invited to Skywalker ranch?! You must be joking?!

I don't take you for a BS-er Zion...but what sort of proof does the guy have? Any Lucasfilm releases?

Proof? Well a friend of mine knows him quite well. I don't question his integrity.

Your friend's integrity or the friend of your friend? Your friend probably was being quite truthful in that the other guy told him he had been to Skywalker Ranch. What your friend heard or didn't hear is not in question, but whether what he heard was the truth or not.

Anyway, I'm actually kind of curious to see this edit. The link to the file is down which is not surprising since it was from last year. Are there any copies of this still floating around online?

I don't really know what the hell that means, but you can believe anything you want to.

Go to myspleen.net if you want to download it.

I was asking whose integrity you did not question, your friend or the guy that he knows. I'm assuming you don't know your friend's friend. Otherwise you might have said, "I know the guy who said he went to Skywalker Ranch." Your friend's connection to that guy would be an unnecessary component of that relationship.

I was also trying to illustrate the problem with hearsay. Unless your friend had gone along with that guy on the trip to Skywalker Ranch, he did not see it happen first hand himself and is relying on that guy's account. If it just so happened that the guy was lying -- I'm not saying that he was --, but your friend believed him anyway, your friend would be telling the truth when he told you, "This guy says he went to Skywalker Ranch and I believe him." By contrast, the only way your friend could be lying in this situation is if the guy never related this story to him, but your friend says that the guy did tell the story or if your friend had reason to believe the story was false, but said he believed it to be truthful.

In either case he can only verify what he heard and what he believed. He cannot attest to the truthfulness of the underlying statement unless he witnessed it first hand himself.

Thanks for the link.

I admire your skepticism; not that I really care whether this story is true or not. But for the sake of avoiding a debate over hearsay and the integrity of those people I trust and the friends whom they trust, I'll give the originaltrilogy.com link.

On occasion, "fuck off" works wonders too.

I didn't really have an opinion on the assertion beforehand. I only knew that others were expressing doubt. I was questioning the proof.

Having said that, here's why I personally believe that it did happen. There are a number of high profile fans who become famous for having done something particularly noteworthy within the fan community. A number of those fans are brought into the Lucasfilm fold in one way or another. Ernie Fosselius who made one of the first fan films Hardware Wars in the late 70s was hired as a music arranger on Return of the Jedi and did the sobs of the Rancor Keeper. Steven Sansweet had the biggest collection of any fan and so he got hired by Lucasfilm to do fan relations. David West Reynolds travelled to Tunisia and dug up some old props that had been left behind so he got hired to write the Visual Dictionaries. Paul Ens went from TheForce.net to working on the official site. Kevin Rubio who made Troops wrote some Star Wars comics for Dark Horse.

MagnoliaFan has become fairly well known within the fan community. I had not heard of him until a few days ago, but judging by the number of references to him and his edit I found in a Yahoo search, it's safe to say that many do. This more than likely includes more than one person at Lucasfilm. Considering that the invite was for a screening of Episode III, the purpose of having him there to see it might have been the same as having many of other high profile fans there. Their online reviews of the film would be among the first.

Good points.

As someone who has known screenwriting for 20 years, I often see how high-profile movies could have turned out better if there were a change in story structure. When I saw Revenge of the Sith, I was struck both by its brilliant moves and by its fatal flaws, and large sections of it rewrote themselves in my head. To get it out of my system, I did a fan fiction rewrite of the script, which focused primarily on fixing the character development.

So, I have an open mind about the alternate versions of the prequels described in this forum. However, I have mixed feelings about the changes as they are described. Some of them read like improvements. Having alien languages with subtitles adds an air of realism. And, since Jar Jar's accent was so bad that I couldn't understand half of what he was saying in the movie, having him talk in his native language with subtitlies is definitely an improvement. And he was so irritating in the movie, that just about any changes you make to his personality are going to be improvements.

But I am concerend about changes that tamper with the stories' basic mythology and with their connections to events in the real world. I found the scene in TPM about the midiclorans interesting, since it raised a lot of philiosphical questions. It's followed up by the opera house scene in ROTS, which raises more questions. The trade dispute in TPM was timely, since trade was the number one international issue in the 90s, and there were plausible scenarios where it could have led to war. Changing the plot to The Trade Federation wanting to literally turn the people of Naboo into slave labor makes it less believable and more cliched. It would not be believable for the incumbent Chancellor to remain neutral in such a case.

The movie AOTC fascinated me with its uncanny resemblance to the real world after 9/11. I say it's uncanny, because I know that Lucas wrote the script and filmed the actors long before 9/11. I also applaud it for its anti-war message, and its warning about the danger to democracy posed by those in power using war and fear of terrorism to amass more power, which, in the Spring of 2002, fell mostly on deaf ears. If more people had listened, then we may have been able to avoid the debacle in Iraq.
Some of the changes described in this forum appear to take away from AOTC's cautionary theme. The picnic scene is vital, both to the film's message, and to foreshadowing Anakin's turn to the Dark Side. And I can't believe you would cut the scene where Count Dooku turns out to be a Sith Lord who's really working for Chancellor Palpatine's alter ego, Darth Sidious! It's a "Sixth Sense"-like moment. It gets to the basic strategy of Palpatine's machinations throughout the Prequel Trilogy. The Dooku/Tyranus scene at the end of AOTC is also required, in order for the first act of ROTS to make sense.

Except politics are the last thing I'm going to think about watching Star Wars. But maybe that's just me.

That is both a an ad hominem fallacy and a non sequitur fallacy. You are attacking the person instead of addressing the argument. You are also claiming wrongly that a mistake in one area (in this case character development) disqualifies someone from working successfully in another area (in this case theme).

My first guess upon seeing that was that you were being satirical, but upon examining the pattern of posts in your profile, I fear that you may actually believe what you're saying. May the Force, or whatever power there may be, protect us from those who believe God is telling them what to do!

god sez star wras is eval.

Lucas made it clear in the interview that one of the themes of ROTS was how democracies turn themselves into dictatorships, and that it could happen here. His historical inspirations included Ancient Rome and Nazi Germany. But, along with the Vietnam War, Lucas also cited the Nixon Administration, which attempted, more than any other in recent history, to create an imperial presidency. Until the last few years, that is. Read John Dean's book, "Worse than Watergate," to see how the Bush/Cheney Administration has been on the same track.

With today's tech (and a bit of creativity) anybody can make a re-edit (Good Artists borrow, Great Artists Steal)

I can watch other's visions of GWL's vision (without alot of fuss or confusion) and take them as that ( ...as GWL's vision is further realized! ... and realized! ... and realized!)

While researching for an article in a 'SW' Fanzine I was helping with I came across an Interesting point (political) worthy of mention as themes (both of this thread and inspirations that started it all (ANH '77) go

- This quote comes from Walter Murch (A good friend of GWL's): Writer, Editor, Sound Designer, Direcor. It can be found in an '03 publication 'The Conversations:Walter Murch and the Art of Editing Film' by Micheal Ondaatje

- "Originally George was going to direct 'APOCALYPSE NOW'. It was a project that George and John Milius developed for ZOETROPE. That was back in '69. Then, when WARNER BROS. cancelled the financing for ZOETROPE, the project was abandoned for awhile. After the success of '(American) GRAFFITTI' in '73, Lucas wanted to revive it, but it was still too hot a topic, the war was still on and nobody wanted to finance something like that. So George considered his options: What did he really want to say in 'APOCALYPSE'? The message boiled down to the ability of a small group of people to defeat a gigantic power simply by the force of their convictions. He decided, All right, if it's politically too hot as a contemporary subject, I'll put the essence of the story in outer space and make it happen in a galaxy long ago and far away. The Rebel group were the Vietnamese, and the Empire was the United States and if you have the force, no matter how small you are, you can defeat the overwhelmingly big power. 'STAR WARS' is George'stransubstantiated version of 'APOCALYPSE NOW'"

Very interesting. I'd like to add that ROTS is closer in theme to Apocalypse Now than is ANH. It's more about the Heart of Darkness. Also, I've read that Lucas came up with the story that eventually became ROTS before he came up with ANH, but decided to skip it and make ANH as the first movie.

It amazes me how this whole saga has come together ... The stories of how GWL put this together is almost as interesting as the actual films themselves

Watching 'Empire of Dreams', reading any of the old 'Behind the scenes' mag/books takes me back .... I'm glad that I have done the research on the 'making of SW' that I have .... He was smart enough to know that this huge tale that he had would have to be told from the point of the 4th episode first so that he would (hopefully) be able to finance the rest of the chapters/episodes ....

It must be quite satisfying for GWL knowing that he has been able to tell this story even though it went through tonnes and tonnes of changes (mind you - not all for the best), revisions etc.
and It's still not even completely finished .... simply awesome

You hit the nail right on the head on that one! What the hell is the point of these fan edits? If you dont like these movies then dont watch them! How can someone call hemself a fan if they get off on their own "better edit" of the movies. It is pretty much taking credit for what the cast/crew/ and all else worked so hard to create.

I saw someone on another site saying they waned a re-edit of batman begins to make it transition into the burton interpretation. I think that these fan edits are an invasion of what the movie was made to be. As a film maker myself, I know I would be ripshit if people were taking stuff I worked so hard to make and have people re-editing it proposing that it is better.

Now I have not ever seen any of these supposed fan edits, nor do I plan to give them a chance. I had some beef with the prequels in the beginning but lately I have begun to see what they have all added up to.

I totally and fully appreciate the people out there who are working their asses off to restore the classic trilogy from the laserdiscs however. That is noble work in trying to preserve movie history that george lucas for some reason doesnt want to do.

I just dont see myself or anyone for that matter wanting to sit down and see someone elsDaes edit of the phantom menace or any other prequel. it is just like Danakinskywalker said - its very self fulfillng. And.... $13 for a burnt dvd and shipping? give me a fricken break here.

3-DVD-R's for $25 at Best Buy? Ya I would say to you were ripped off.

You can get a 3-Pack of DVD-R's at Wally World for about $5.00

I think he bought dual layer.