Emperor's New Look in The Empire Strikes Back DVD

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Postby Benovite » July 27th 2004 6:03 pm

The Emperor looks like a French guy named Maurice who sells balloons.
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Postby MotherFuckerJawasRule » July 27th 2004 6:05 pm

Benovite wrote:The Emperor looks like a French guy named Maurice who sells balloons.


best one yet

He did age a lot between ESB and Jedi, maybe he ages fast. I wonder if maybe he will look more like this in the new movie
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Postby pjvader » July 27th 2004 6:43 pm

MotheFukerJawasRule wrote:
Benovite wrote:The Emperor looks like a French guy named Maurice who sells balloons.


best one yet

He did age a lot between ESB and Jedi, maybe he ages fast. I wonder if maybe he will look more like this in the new movie


i would imagine he will lok exactly like this as they "probably" shot it at the same time, like i said when i 1st saw the pic ages ago when i thought it was fake :oops: it looks like the emperor if u lower the brightness/contrast bt where are his eyebrow bumps? maybe it looks better in motion
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Postby Hade » July 28th 2004 1:55 am

The chins definitely change between ESB and ROTJ.

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Maybe he tried to stem the tide with a little plastic surgery.
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Postby TK432 » July 28th 2004 2:27 am

Looks like he had a Botox backfire and got it fixed by ROTJ

The new emperor is way better then what we had.

BUT it still looks like crap.

Maybe it will look beter im motion. THey should have darked it up if they where not going to match it right.

OOOO WEELLL
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Postby Pete Venkman » July 28th 2004 4:21 am

Maybe he tried to stem the tide with a little plastic surgery.


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"We're wanted men. I have a license to do plastic surgery on twelve systems."

God forbid the guy that really needs it is the only one who can perform it.
Then again, in his mind, botched surgery is better than good surgery.
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Postby Light Alpha Zer0 » July 29th 2004 12:15 am

It looks somewhat cool, but it looks nothing like Ian McDunnohowtospellhisname
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Postby Golic » July 29th 2004 10:41 am

It's odd how the sides of the hood are all wrinkled, as opposed to TMP, AOTC, and ROTJ.
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Postby Laurent » July 29th 2004 10:43 am

Darth Hade wrote:The chins definitely change between ESB and ROTJ.

http://www.21stcenturyoptics.com/emp.jpg

Maybe he tried to stem the tide with a little plastic surgery.

Are both of them from the 2004 DVDs?!
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Postby JonLees » July 29th 2004 10:49 am

I think it looks like a person melting.

It looks BAD.
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Postby JohnS » July 29th 2004 5:15 pm

JonLees wrote:I think it looks like a person melting.

It looks BAD.


It's a screen cap, I will wait until I see it in motion until giving my any of my thoughts.
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Postby JediMrBond » July 29th 2004 5:20 pm

No matter how imperfect this may be I must say that it's looking alot better than the original scene, only it shouldn't look so clean, it should look dirtier.
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Postby TK432 » July 29th 2004 6:21 pm

it would look fine if they just cut the brightness down.
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Postby cheese_boy » July 29th 2004 7:35 pm

Y'know, this adds more credence to Fatboy's post about the lightsabres. Perhaps through the reasons he's given all the DVD rips appear brighter than they actually are, hence all the complaints about Palps being too bright.
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Postby TK432 » July 29th 2004 8:10 pm

but when you do the saber trick you brighten not darken

the Emp still looks better when the saber effect is done.. but i think it would have been better for them to make him darker
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Postby cheese_boy » July 29th 2004 8:14 pm

Ah shit, yeah. My brain's tired. Doesn't matter to me though, to be honest, it's Ian in the scene and that matters more, personally.
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Postby TK432 » July 29th 2004 8:18 pm

cheese_boy wrote:Ah shit, yeah. My brain's tired. Doesn't matter to me though, to be honest, it's Ian in the scene and that matters more, personally.


agree
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Postby Maxwell Everett » July 29th 2004 9:18 pm

Darth Hade wrote:The chins definitely change between ESB and ROTJ.

http://www.21stcenturyoptics.com/emp.jpg

Maybe he tried to stem the tide with a little plastic surgery.


Good comparison... but you still need to adjust for the 16X9 anamorphosis, like this:

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(I screwed around with the saturation, luminosity, and hue on both of them as well.)
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Postby Golic » August 1st 2004 2:23 pm

Did anyone happen to save the pictures of the new Palpatine?
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Postby Jimbo Asprilla » August 1st 2004 2:23 pm

Don't be too hasty to judge the scene change based on one screen grab.
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Postby Golic » August 1st 2004 4:08 pm

It's 3 posts up.



No, I mean the original screencaps from the DVD. They were in the first post but are gone now.
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Postby Golic » August 1st 2004 8:00 pm

Thanks bucketloads, Zion.
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Postby Chainsaw_Ash » August 3rd 2004 8:13 am

AnaKanned_Food wrote:It's odd how they decided to alter Ian's cleft for ESB.
It's not altered, watch ROTJ again, specifically the shots just before and after "So be it, Jedi" and before the Force lightning attack.
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Postby Chainsaw_Ash » August 3rd 2004 8:15 pm

Prog5000 wrote:i thought it was a diff actor playing the emp in ESB
... Thread title says "emperor's NEW look", so it's been obviously changed....for the new DVDs....
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Postby TiniTinyTony » August 3rd 2004 9:14 pm

On one hand it's no longer a woman and a monkey.
But on the other hand, it doesn't look like Ian.

So we got a crappy looking emperor. A pink Vader lightsaber. And Hayden at the end of ROTJ.

Greedo still shoots first right? Oh good, thank god. At least the retardation is consistant.
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Postby mvmagic » August 4th 2004 12:21 am

Looks enough like Ian to me. I think the key element in the Emperor is the voice. Sure the new thing looks a bit (but not much) different from ROTJ Emperor but once we see the scene and hear Ian delivering the lines, I believe it will "click" right away. Besides, we´ve seen only captures of the scene, we need to see the make-up in motion to give the final judgement.

I´m very happy the change has been made. Clive Revill was a brilliant actor but his vocal performance didn´t convey the immense evil of the Emperor, he rather sounded somewhat pleasant. In total, the Emperor seemed quite docile in the original scene.
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Postby famo » August 4th 2004 11:35 am

old actor and voice away.
ian mcdiarmid (ROTJ actor) has replaced the old one. New lines and better voice
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