MF SPOILERIFFIC REPORT: Actual Revenge Of the Sith Dialog Lines From The Movie
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MF SPOILERIFFIC REPORT: Actual Revenge Of the Sith Dialog Lines From The Movie
by femme01 » February 13th 2005 3:45 am
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by nomad » February 13th 2005 4:15 am
"Only the Sith see things in terms of absolutes."
- Obi-Wan Kenobi, in the final argument with Anakin as Vader before The Duel.
gees... thats a bit obnoxious since all the jedi do is say you must do this you must do that.. and do this not forgetting that... here a rule there a rule everywhere a rule... sure the jedi learnt after getting owned by the sith but prior to the absolution they saw things in absolutes also.
- Obi-Wan Kenobi, in the final argument with Anakin as Vader before The Duel.
gees... thats a bit obnoxious since all the jedi do is say you must do this you must do that.. and do this not forgetting that... here a rule there a rule everywhere a rule... sure the jedi learnt after getting owned by the sith but prior to the absolution they saw things in absolutes also.
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by Jinh Warrior » February 13th 2005 4:33 am
-you can try (that "I love to see you try"attitude)
It has that "So glad you could join us"feel to it.
It has that "So glad you could join us"feel to it.
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by DarExc » February 13th 2005 4:41 am
"I've got a bad feeling about this."
- Obi-Wan Kenobi, during the opening space battle.
Wasn't it supposed to be said by someone that had never said it before? I don't really care, its a gay tradition anyway but this report would conflict with what Pablo said I believe.
- Obi-Wan Kenobi, during the opening space battle.
Wasn't it supposed to be said by someone that had never said it before? I don't really care, its a gay tradition anyway but this report would conflict with what Pablo said I believe.
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by kremzike » February 13th 2005 5:43 am
Concerning "I've got a bad feeling about this" (and it's variations), it had been said more than once in 2 SW movies so far (maybe more if i've missed some), so it's still possible that someone else says it that has never said it before. I vote for Chewie.
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by robbie_20002002 » February 13th 2005 8:53 am
I think the burning question for me is not the actual lines, but how well (or naturally) they are delivered compared to TPM, AOTC or even the OT. Does the acting represent a leap forward from the first two prequels? Have they delivered the emotional punch which (IMO) ESB delivered best from the SW films? The images have blown me away, but the key to how well this film will work isn't how pretty Coruscant looks, or how incredibly realistic or exciting the space battle looks, but whether the actors can really make us believe that they are feeling the torment, darkness and confusion which should dominate this film. I'd be really interested to hear Spoilerriffic's views on what he has thought of everything he has seen so far. Will this film deliver?
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by darthvodka » February 13th 2005 9:16 am
They used a dialogue coach recommended by Coppola for this one, the acting should be better (not that it was bad before 
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by robbie_20002002 » February 13th 2005 9:31 am
darthvodka wrote:They used a dialogue coach recommended by Coppola for this one, the acting should be better (not that it was bad before
Yeah, i knew about the dialogue coach, so i'm really hoping that it will be a decision which will benefit Revenge. Pretty much everything i've heard or seen about the film is positive, and i've viewed enough spoilers to know the general outline of the plot. What i'm now more interested in, is whether our insiders can tell us if it all works. Crucial to that will be the acting and delivery of the lines. "Travelling through hyperspace ain't like dusting crops boy" could be a dreadful line but the way Ford delivers it MAKES it believable. I guess what i'm getting at is will the lines that we see printed on paper, be delivered with the emotional punch and character to make them work?
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by Master Larvell » February 13th 2005 10:04 am
robbie_20002002 wrote:I think the burning question for me is not the actual lines, but how well (or naturally) they are delivered compared to TPM, AOTC or even the OT. Does the acting represent a leap forward from the first two prequels? Have they delivered the emotional punch which (IMO) ESB delivered best from the SW films? The images have blown me away, but the key to how well this film will work isn't how pretty Coruscant looks, or how incredibly realistic or exciting the space battle looks, but whether the actors can really make us believe that they are feeling the torment, darkness and confusion which should dominate this film. I'd be really interested to hear Spoilerriffic's views on what he has thought of everything he has seen so far. Will this film deliver?
Robbie captured my thoughts as well. Spoilerriffic, having seen what you've seen, does the acting deliver? There are so many people getting ready for "the best SW movie ever," and I think everything hangs on this, now that I've seen how awesome everything LOOKS.
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by darthvodka » February 13th 2005 11:31 am
The critical factor is going to be the editing, which should be a little different with a non PG tag (they can show more/different shots). I just hope we have less direct human-CG interaction (ala Dex,JarJar)) and really give the actors a chance (unless we get a CG performance on a par with Gollum, though that level of quality seems reserved for Yoda).
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by Obi » February 13th 2005 12:32 pm
Nice report, cant wait for the Dooku scene. However, all this talk about the CGI stuff really is annoying. Until you see the movie itself then we can judge it, however, I really don't think its a big deal. SO Its not completely life like yet, so what. The onl y thing that matters CGI wise is Yoda and his performance. And so far from the stills he looks damn good.
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by Spoileriffic » February 13th 2005 6:47 pm
As I posted over on the 3SA:
Ok, just scan the whole script once and for all, and stop teasing people like that !!!
Sorry, can't help you there. I'm working off of memory.
Just wondering why there is no context to them.
If you keep up on your spoilers, you'd already know the context.
If you mean why there aren't other lines in the same conversations, it's because, frankly, I don't remember them specifically. As I said, this is working from my memory. Some scenes I've seen more than others (like the Dooku duel, for instance) I take pride in my accuracy. I only want to report on what I know to be 100% true of the actual film (or at least the film as of last I saw it). I won't report anything that is meerely based off of something I read or heard... if I tell you about it, it's because I've seen it and I am as sure as I can be that you will see it on May 19th.
And so these quotes are a few that stuck out and I remember specifically... some because they're cool ("You can try") and some because they're, well, not cool ("You're breaking my heart...") and while I know the general context of the discussion and scene, I do not recall the rest of the dialogue with enough accuracy to present it with these quotes.
Plus I just like being a mysterious bastard.
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Wow, what a big (and mostly enthusiastic) reaction. I can see a lot of people are very curious about how the lines come off in the ocntext of their conversations. Well, I'll indulge you.
"I've got a bad feeling about this."
- Obi-Wan Kenobi, during the opening space battle.
I remember this line specifically because I was thinking about how it was kind of waste to use it in that scene. I believe Obi-Wan is simply sensing incomming fighters before they are visible. I mean this is Revenge of the Sith here, the entire movie is back-to-back s***-hitting-the-fan, and plenty of other (more appropriate) times characters could have said the token line. But, it is entirely possible that this line is said more than once in the film.
"Remember what you told me? About your mother and the Sand People?"
- Palpatine, to Anakin in a conversation after defeating Dooku.
Stay tuned for my approximately-1150-word report on the Dooku duel.
"I can't watch any more."
- Obi-Wan Kenobi, watching the security records of Anakin's rampage.
All the actors really get a better chance to shine in this film, because the story actually affords all of them some emotions to have. In this scene, we see Obi-Wan watch his former apprentice (via hologram) kill Jedi and kneel to Darth Sidious. Ewan delivers this line in an almost wavering tone as he turns away.
"Destroy the Sith, we must."
- Yoda, watching the security records of Anakin's rampage, alongside Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Probably the coolest line Yoda says in the prequels. Yoda's sullen expression after watching the hologram transforms into determination and he looks to Obi-Wan and delivers this line slowly and with great conviction.
"You're breaking my heart..."
- Padme Amidala, her last conversation with her husband.
As I mentioned before, all the actors get a much better opportunity to act in this film. But that doesn't mean the script is without some less-than-great dialogue. It is a strange thing to see. Hayden and Natalie really act quite well here. There is genuine emotion, concern, and love in each of them, despite some of the dialogue they have to deliver. It's like they're fighting the lines with all the talent they can muster. And a lot of the time, it works... but with some lines, it's hard not to be reminded that this is a Star Wars prequel. Still, as I would watch this scene, I'd feel a little choked-up myself, which is something I can't say I ever got out of the other prequels... or the original trilogy, to be honest.
In this scene Padme comes to talk to Anakin on Mustafar, and Obi-Wan has told her the things that Anakin has done, but she doesn't believe it. She can't. She has to talk to him herself. But as the conversation unfolds she begins to see that Anakin is no longer the man she married, and Anakin wants to convince her that they need no longer fear, because he can now rule the galaxy with her at his side. Padme is shocked to hear Anakin talk like this, and the conversation becomes an argument, and then the argument becomes murder as Obi-Wan reveals himself.
"Only the Sith see things in terms of absolutes."
- Obi-Wan Kenobi, in the final argument with Anakin as Vader before The Duel.
Obi-Wan makes every attempt he can to try to make Anakin see the error of his ways, but as they talk, Obi-Wan also sees that Anakin is truly changed for the worse, and he is not coming back. Anakin criticizes the Jedi ways and makes declarations about the power and superiority of the dark side. Something he says the Jedi are simply too afraid to embrace. Anakin tries to relay the simplicity of the situation, to which Obi-Wan replies with this line. This scene is probably the greatest Anakin scene of all the movies. This is Hayden in full-force evil mode. He and Obi-Wan circle each other, and Anakin is yelling at him in a manner we only got a glimpse of in the AOTC scene where he confesses to padme about killing the Sand People. Hayden finally gets his chance to prove why he was a great choice to play the soon-to-be Darth Vader.
"You can try."
- Anakin as Vader, his last words to Obi-Wan Kenobi before The Duel.
Once Obi-Wan finally sees that Anakin cannot be turned back, he knows what must be done, and he tells Anakin exactly what that is. Anakin responds with this line.
Ok, just scan the whole script once and for all, and stop teasing people like that !!!
Sorry, can't help you there. I'm working off of memory.
Just wondering why there is no context to them.
If you keep up on your spoilers, you'd already know the context.
If you mean why there aren't other lines in the same conversations, it's because, frankly, I don't remember them specifically. As I said, this is working from my memory. Some scenes I've seen more than others (like the Dooku duel, for instance) I take pride in my accuracy. I only want to report on what I know to be 100% true of the actual film (or at least the film as of last I saw it). I won't report anything that is meerely based off of something I read or heard... if I tell you about it, it's because I've seen it and I am as sure as I can be that you will see it on May 19th.
And so these quotes are a few that stuck out and I remember specifically... some because they're cool ("You can try") and some because they're, well, not cool ("You're breaking my heart...") and while I know the general context of the discussion and scene, I do not recall the rest of the dialogue with enough accuracy to present it with these quotes.
Plus I just like being a mysterious bastard.
...
Wow, what a big (and mostly enthusiastic) reaction. I can see a lot of people are very curious about how the lines come off in the ocntext of their conversations. Well, I'll indulge you.
"I've got a bad feeling about this."
- Obi-Wan Kenobi, during the opening space battle.
I remember this line specifically because I was thinking about how it was kind of waste to use it in that scene. I believe Obi-Wan is simply sensing incomming fighters before they are visible. I mean this is Revenge of the Sith here, the entire movie is back-to-back s***-hitting-the-fan, and plenty of other (more appropriate) times characters could have said the token line. But, it is entirely possible that this line is said more than once in the film.
"Remember what you told me? About your mother and the Sand People?"
- Palpatine, to Anakin in a conversation after defeating Dooku.
Stay tuned for my approximately-1150-word report on the Dooku duel.
"I can't watch any more."
- Obi-Wan Kenobi, watching the security records of Anakin's rampage.
All the actors really get a better chance to shine in this film, because the story actually affords all of them some emotions to have. In this scene, we see Obi-Wan watch his former apprentice (via hologram) kill Jedi and kneel to Darth Sidious. Ewan delivers this line in an almost wavering tone as he turns away.
"Destroy the Sith, we must."
- Yoda, watching the security records of Anakin's rampage, alongside Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Probably the coolest line Yoda says in the prequels. Yoda's sullen expression after watching the hologram transforms into determination and he looks to Obi-Wan and delivers this line slowly and with great conviction.
"You're breaking my heart..."
- Padme Amidala, her last conversation with her husband.
As I mentioned before, all the actors get a much better opportunity to act in this film. But that doesn't mean the script is without some less-than-great dialogue. It is a strange thing to see. Hayden and Natalie really act quite well here. There is genuine emotion, concern, and love in each of them, despite some of the dialogue they have to deliver. It's like they're fighting the lines with all the talent they can muster. And a lot of the time, it works... but with some lines, it's hard not to be reminded that this is a Star Wars prequel. Still, as I would watch this scene, I'd feel a little choked-up myself, which is something I can't say I ever got out of the other prequels... or the original trilogy, to be honest.
In this scene Padme comes to talk to Anakin on Mustafar, and Obi-Wan has told her the things that Anakin has done, but she doesn't believe it. She can't. She has to talk to him herself. But as the conversation unfolds she begins to see that Anakin is no longer the man she married, and Anakin wants to convince her that they need no longer fear, because he can now rule the galaxy with her at his side. Padme is shocked to hear Anakin talk like this, and the conversation becomes an argument, and then the argument becomes murder as Obi-Wan reveals himself.
"Only the Sith see things in terms of absolutes."
- Obi-Wan Kenobi, in the final argument with Anakin as Vader before The Duel.
Obi-Wan makes every attempt he can to try to make Anakin see the error of his ways, but as they talk, Obi-Wan also sees that Anakin is truly changed for the worse, and he is not coming back. Anakin criticizes the Jedi ways and makes declarations about the power and superiority of the dark side. Something he says the Jedi are simply too afraid to embrace. Anakin tries to relay the simplicity of the situation, to which Obi-Wan replies with this line. This scene is probably the greatest Anakin scene of all the movies. This is Hayden in full-force evil mode. He and Obi-Wan circle each other, and Anakin is yelling at him in a manner we only got a glimpse of in the AOTC scene where he confesses to padme about killing the Sand People. Hayden finally gets his chance to prove why he was a great choice to play the soon-to-be Darth Vader.
"You can try."
- Anakin as Vader, his last words to Obi-Wan Kenobi before The Duel.
Once Obi-Wan finally sees that Anakin cannot be turned back, he knows what must be done, and he tells Anakin exactly what that is. Anakin responds with this line.
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by robbie_20002002 » February 13th 2005 6:53 pm
Thanks man, much appreciated. Glad to know that you think the acting is of a much higher standard. When can we expect that Dooku duel report?
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by Master Larvell » February 13th 2005 10:49 pm
Thanks Spoileriffic!
As far as insiders go, you respond well to questions and are very accessible. I appreciate that. I don't worry about getting "too spoiled," because I know that this is like reading the book, and reading a book before the movie never hurts, in my opinion.
MF.com rocks!
As far as insiders go, you respond well to questions and are very accessible. I appreciate that. I don't worry about getting "too spoiled," because I know that this is like reading the book, and reading a book before the movie never hurts, in my opinion.
MF.com rocks!
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by vanillazinger » February 13th 2005 10:55 pm
Dag, that's awesome stuff, 'Riff. I'm a little concerned about the actors trying to gravely deliver cheesy lines - that was the greatest failing of AOTC, and probably the whole PT v.s. the OT - but if the story is driving real emotions at the audience (as opposed to AOTC's death of a minor character from the previous film) then earnest acting may be the right way to go.
In any event, it's way cool to hear not only spoilers but personal commentary.
In any event, it's way cool to hear not only spoilers but personal commentary.
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