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by **femme01** » March 2nd 2005 4:18 pm

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by **robbie_20002002** » March 2nd 2005 4:29 pm

Actually i don't mind it. Comes across like a James Bond villain. It really all depends on the delivery. Done right, it won't be a problem.

"Do you expect us to talk General?"

"No, i expect you to die!"

by **Wrath Mania** » March 2nd 2005 4:30 pm

I'm not sure what you guys were expecting, we've known for a while that Grievous spits corny lines.

Corky, the Invisible Hand is the name of the ship. Hence, the SOS, cuz it's crashing.

by **Ricardo C** » March 2nd 2005 4:35 pm

Grievous' dialogue might be cheesy, but it seems the good kind of cheesy. Same as with ANH: Corny lines that were nevertheless strangely compelling. As robbie says, it's all in the delivery.

"I should have recognized your foul stench when I was brought on board"

by **Ethril** » March 2nd 2005 4:38 pm

Master Larvell wrote:Am I the only one who thinks that Grievous's dialogue, well, eats poop?

Are there still people that don't understand what types of movies these are supposed to be? When you figure it out, you'll notice that the villians in the movies that Star Wars is a direct homage to talk EXACTLY like that. I love it. This isn't Arthur Miller..

by **cheese_boy** » March 2nd 2005 4:43 pm

I love his lines. Cheesey, proper moustache-twirling stuff.

by **Slug** » March 2nd 2005 4:55 pm

Yes, the lines are more kiddie movie based, but I would still love to hear some "The beasts will tear out your endtrails & we will feast on your souls!"

I love that kind of villany. You might say its over the top, but I will say yes, yes it is. Why? Because it can be.

by **Artmaul** » March 2nd 2005 4:58 pm

Jesus Fuck... You people are ignoring some bitchin' bad ass action just to nitpick lines?

:gb2tfn:

by **CoGro** » March 2nd 2005 4:58 pm

We have always known he's supposed to be the arrogant cheesy villain.

This dialogue will sound pretty good on film. I can picture him saying it mockingly, and that's exactly the way I'm sure it'll turn out.

by **VT-16** » March 2nd 2005 5:08 pm

but I would still love to hear some "The beasts will tear out your endtrails & we will feast on your souls!"

Sorry, uber-badass demon-speak don´t impress me anymore. It would have been cheesy anyway, better to let it stay James Bond-villain cheesy. :monocle:

by **Zidious** » March 2nd 2005 5:13 pm

Great evil guy dialog. Great character. Are some of you brain dead? This is Buck Rogers fun!

by **Slug** » March 2nd 2005 5:51 pm

By no means am I complaining about the existing dialogue.

I love all SW dialogue. In fact I wish more people on this planet spoke like that. Then I would always get the right kind of rice when I order chineese food.

by **Joe1138** » March 2nd 2005 6:01 pm

On the page, the scene reminds me a bit of moment in "Temple of Doom" when the pilots (or air-chirpas, as it were), who are wisking away Indy, Willie and Short Round aboard Lao Che's plane, grab the remaining parachutes for themselves just as they cut out the gas, leaving Indy to maneuver the craft himself.

by **CoGro** » March 2nd 2005 6:11 pm

Fatboy Roberts wrote:I still can't get over the fact they're having him cough.

He has no fucking lungs.

and the fact that he's going to be walking around in the vacuum of space should make any later "coughing" look really stupid, as well.

but it's not really all that big a deal, and I'll probably be able to shunt it off while I'm watching.

I agree.

I really have no idea how this is going to turn out. Could be a cool character trait, but I can't imagine the final shots/sound.

The logic of him coughing doesn't bother me much since there's no sound in space, nor could there be explosions like there are in SW, but that happens regardless in the movies. To be nitpicky about science is meaningless in SW.

by **Kraken** » March 2nd 2005 6:19 pm

Do we know for certain that he has no lungs?

Surely, debating the physiology of a cyborg seems a little moot?

by **VT-16** » March 2nd 2005 6:51 pm

Fatboy Roberts wrote:I still can't get over the fact they're having him cough.

He has no fucking lungs.

I think he has some form of artificial lungs. Sure I read it somewhere.

and the fact that he's going to be walking around in the vacuum of space should make any later "coughing" look really stupid, as well.

He ain´t in absolute vacuum, it´s the upper-most part of the atmosphere. That´why you can see the smoke and flak and stuff.

And I believe the guy voicing him tried with a bit of a Transylvanian accent. A robot-reptile zombie-vampire? :monocle:

by **Thundercracker** » March 2nd 2005 6:59 pm

Yeah, Grievous does still have some of his original organs. LoE had a detail about it. I assume that green chamber behind his chest and ribcage armor encases whatever organs he has left.

EDIT: Found the excerpt in the LoE book...

His campaign cloak, slit down one side from left shoulder to floor, was thrown back so that twin pectorals of armor plating were exposed, along with the reverse ribs that began at Grievous's hip gurdle and extended upward to his shielded sternum. Beneath is all, encased in a kind of fluid-filled, forest-green gutsac, were the organs that nurtured the living part of him.

by **PTGrievous** » March 2nd 2005 7:36 pm

I ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY LOVE IT!

I was wondering if Grievous uses the grappling hook that comes with the deluxe figure, now I know :P
Wonder if it's half Grievous' size like the toy

Grievous should have lungs...

That's from Star Wars Visionaries, comics by the concept artists of Episode III

by **Obi** » March 2nd 2005 8:55 pm

Umm, most of the dialogue in the OT is cheesy.
I am a visual guy anyways. The GG scene in space should be kick ass.
Great info!!!!

by **Obi** » March 2nd 2005 9:36 pm

fatboy you really should read Labyrinth of evil. Its a great book, its probably the most non-eu book i have read so far.

by **E_CHU_TA!** » March 2nd 2005 10:07 pm

Anakin and Obi-Wan have just chopped up the MagnaGuards, SuperBattleDroids, and Droidekas when Grievous decides it's time to say goodbye.

Why wouldn’t Grievous leave immediately? Why stand around and wait when you can use the driods as a smokescreen to escape?

by **Obi** » March 2nd 2005 10:11 pm

He probably wants to see the capabillities of Anakin and ObiWan first hand, the "Hero Without Fear" and "the Negotiator". Great names, btw. Lucas idea?

by **CoGro** » March 2nd 2005 10:13 pm

I liked the 'Hero without Fear' nickname from LoE.

Anakin's abilities portrayed in that novel are terrific. I'm sure some of those daring piloting skills will be shown off well in the film, especially during the buzz droid bit.

by **Ethril** » March 2nd 2005 10:43 pm

I like people who can admit when they're wrong.. that makes you cool :heavymetal:

Most people would keep arguing just to save face, and then we get the reeeeally retarded arguments.

by **Caback** » March 3rd 2005 12:41 am

Grievous' lines are chessy as Hell. I'm talking Velveeta. But it's those cheesy lines that make SW quoteable

I can see that one being one of the quoteable lines from RotS. Who wants to quote normal junk?

by **Adm_Thrawn** » March 3rd 2005 1:05 am

I agree.
We need more cheesy lines to quote...I'm running out.

by **Dogg Thang** » March 3rd 2005 2:25 am

Yep, he's got the look and now he's got the lines to match - Grievous is defeinitely a reject from the old He-Man cartoon. Well, who's laughing now Skeletor? Who's laughing now?

Dogg.

by **TJ Cobra** » March 3rd 2005 3:42 am

I definitely got a 80's cartoon/Bond/Indy kind of vibe out of the Grevious lines too, as pointed out above. I never figured they would have that approach because it's so untypical for modern films, nobody dares to be cheezy anymore, but I think it really suits him and I'm really sure it will be totally great! :heavymetal:

by **Evil_Elvis** » March 3rd 2005 4:02 am

I know Pabs has said it before but when I read that dialogue I definitely got a Megatron type of vibe from him. Thatd be very cool if they can pull it off.

by **Zlatan** » March 3rd 2005 8:14 am

The Grevious lines might be cheesier than Mr Cheesy's extra cheesy bits, but I quite like them.

by **Moff_Diver** » March 3rd 2005 12:21 pm

he should DIE if he walks around in space. he's droid and part organic. the organic should freeze and kill him IMMEDIATELY when he breaks the glass.

by **Bandersnatch** » March 3rd 2005 12:36 pm

Moff_Diver wrote:he should DIE if he walks around in space. he's droid and part organic. the organic should freeze and kill him IMMEDIATELY when he breaks the glass.

Right. And Han, Leia and Chewie should physically decompress and splatter like a rat in a microwave when they put on those flimsy masks and leave the Falcon. But they don't.

We also shouldn't hear any sound in space. But we do in Star Wars! :cool:

by **Ramstrong** » March 3rd 2005 12:56 pm

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by **Slug** » March 3rd 2005 1:10 pm

I believe someone mentioned earlier that the battle is not exactly all the way up into space, but in the upper atmoshpere of Coruscant.

Also, could it also be possible for GG to have some small kind of personal shield that would go around him in a time like that? I dont know if its EU or not but I thought that when starfighter pilots ejected that they did have some kind of field that protected them for a short while. But if they were out too long the cold would eventually kill them.

by **Bandersnatch** » March 3rd 2005 1:17 pm

Don't know about that, but another thing I thought of was that he could have some kind of internal protection for his lungs, or some way that his outer shell automatically protects him when he's in space.

It doesn't matter, really. I'm willing to suspend my disbelief during a Star Wars movie.
:monocle:

by **Ramstrong** » March 3rd 2005 2:12 pm

I try not to get to technical when watching Star Wars. If you want real watch 2001. I like having explosions and sound in space.

If Grievous has the proper heat shielding and falls at a proper descent angle and can keep his organic brain oxygenated he should be fine :roll:

Aww what the heck I believe! :heavymetal:

And you are right when saying Powell's is the greatest bookstore on earth.

by **Bandersnatch** » March 3rd 2005 6:04 pm

Invisible Hand? I don't get it.

It's a game Anakin plays when Padme is away...

by **VT-16** » March 3rd 2005 6:30 pm

I try not to get to technical when watching Star Wars. If you want real watch 2001. I like having explosions and sound in space.

There´s no need to switch your brain off, either.

And as was stated earlier in the thread (by yours truly :roll:

) the battle takes place in the outer-most region of the atmosphere.

by **Charles B** » March 3rd 2005 6:45 pm

I have to say, it took me a while to get LOE, but I always chalked it down to the fact that I live in Blighty.

Still, it was worth the wait. Even though I nailed it in a day, that's some fun reading.

by **Vrolokus** » March 3rd 2005 7:25 pm

If Grievous leaves the ship in the upper atmosphere, he should be fine unless the ship is in freefall. The intense heat ships have to withstand when re-entering the atmosphere isn't because the upper atmosphere is hot - it isn't. It is the friction of passing through the atmosphere that fast. The glow at the front of a craft isn't flame, per se - it's the atmosphere, superheated, bunching up at the nose of the craft like snow piling up at the front of a plow.

So anyway, Grievous would be alright if the ship wasn't totally shooting for the surface (and from the spoilers, it sounds like it's just sorta drifting down).

Also: people don't explosively decompress in the vacuum of space, that's a myth. A cosmonaut was killed a while back when the craft he was in decompressed, and his body was intact.

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