I have a clear mental image of what this going to look like now and I like it a lot. Except, perhaps, the Trade Federation-like ships... the Seperatists have been slaughtered for god's sake, where do these ships come from? Still... can't wait to see it in the film.
You can see the main canon/reactor shaft reaching to the core, and the main chamber that Lando Calrissian destroys in RotJ.
Tellon wrote:I still think it's a bit weird how it takes them 20-odd years to finish construction on the DS and make it operational, whearas the second DS is 3/4 complete just five years after they blow up the first one.
VT-16 wrote:For some techs the thought of DS I taking this long to build and the DS II (which is almost 9 times bigger) taking less time (though it was never completed) is ridiculous...
VT-16 wrote:For some techs the thought of DS I taking this long to build and the DS II (which is almost 9 times bigger) taking less time (though it was never completed) is ridiculous. Dumb, reactionary thinking, but still...
I´ll go for the protoype-theory when I watch it. And the prototype is an EU-creation, so it´s not unfounded.
Bandersnatch wrote:I don't get what's ridiculous about it. It always takes longer to build the first version of anything.
And when is it stated that the DS2 is "9 times bigger?" It's simply stated that it's supposed to be more powerful when it's completed.
120 km compared to 160 kilometers in diameter.
EU isn non-existent for me, so no prototype for me either.
VT-16 wrote:120 km compared to 160 kilometers in diameter.
EU isn non-existent for me, so no prototype for me either.
The '160 km' statement exists only in EU sources, so it has to have some validity for you.
Der Graf wrote:Fair enough, but I always had the impression that the DS II being twice as big came directly from the horses mouth (Lucas) and was therefore included in the SW Databank.
"Measurings from the film"? 900 km? OK, I want a detailed calculation now!
Once you accept the concept that it would be way easier for Palps to get away with building the DS II much quicker and with relative ease compared to the first one, everything just seems to sit nicely as far as all this stuff is concerned.
Ternian wrote:Imagine a skeletal body with the two poles complete. You can see the main canon/reactor shaft reaching to the core, and the main chamber that Lando Calrissian destroys in RotJ.
VT-16 wrote:
http://www.theforce.net/swtc/ds/#dimensionsOnce you accept the concept that it would be way easier for Palps to get away with building the DS II much quicker and with relative ease compared to the first one, everything just seems to sit nicely as far as all this stuff is concerned.
Correct. Just added a bit of extra trivia, that´s all.
JangoFett2296 wrote:Ternian wrote:Imagine a skeletal body with the two poles complete. You can see the main canon/reactor shaft reaching to the core...
That doesn't really make any sense though, because the first Death Star had a trench, not a big reactor shaft like that.
That doesn't really make any sense though, because the first Death Star had a trench, not a big reactor shaft like that.
JangoFett2296 wrote:...and therefore it makes less sense to show shafts...
JangoFett2296 wrote:...Additionally, there was the Lando comment, which makes it sound like it was the same type of setup from ROTJ... which it won't be...
As far as those (well-known) nerdy TFN calculations:
they are totally dependent on the consistency of the two objects (DS II and Endor) rotating around each other.
do we know who originally commisioned the DS?
Tellon wrote:I still think it's a bit weird how it takes them 20-odd years to finish construction on the DS and make it operational, whearas the second DS is 3/4 complete just five years after they blow up the first one.
Dont instantly start quoting technical ramifications involving unions, contractors, estimated buiding times and structural nonsense. Thats fucking stupid. Really.
Its easier this way. Its less stressful. It helps me let go of all the nitpicky bullshit and enjoy the movie for what it is, not what it fucking could've or should've been.
And no, im not a so called 'apologist'. I just really want to enjoy this thing, one last time. These are the only flicks I can be like this with.
And, as far as I know, a space station the size of a 'small moon' has never actually been built for real, has it? So what the are you all harping on about? You hypothetical bastards!
I'm in the same boat as Lou, I dont need any exposition about why or how the DS is there.
VT-16 wrote:That is the biggest lump of bullshit I´ve ever seen. You haven´t even looked at the article, have you? There are more ways to find proper scaling, without using the orbit of the moon (vader´s shuttle, the Executor-crash etc.) So don´t give me "We can´t find anything" before you actually know what you´re talking about.
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