AintItCool.com Episode III Title?: The Creeping Fear

[pjvader]

it smells perfect bringing the title of "the phantom creeps"(1939 serial) full circle
afterall it is george's favourite genre and commander cody came from serials too!
but it also smells like fake sheep banter! espically the reference to GG!
full article here:

www.aintitcool.com

Personnaly i would be happy if it is the title!


http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=17252

Harry Knowles:

The title for STAR WARS EPISODE III? Heh... I know
...

Hey folks, Harry here... Ordinarily I would stay about 30,000 miles away from a rumor about the title of the final Star Wars prequel. How many rumors have there been? A zillion? I've been hearing "RISE OF THE EMPIRE" for a billion years now, but I've always dismissed it because frankly - with the last film having "of the" in the title, I really didn't feel that Lucas would have that in a subsequent title... didn't feel like his style. That being said - when I got this email... with all the blank pieces filled in and when I talked to a friend that knew the person that fills those blanks and works with them - well - this early morning they confirmed this for me. Now... having said that - it is awfully close to April 1st and well that brings out the loons. But I believe this title simply because... well... it sounds like something Lucas would hatch for the final title. Read on, I'll be back afterwards...

Source:

Hi Harry,

A lttle nugget of Star Wars info...I work in the animation industry, and I've just had a very interesting conversation with ___________ ___. We were discussing the presentations for the upcoming MIPCOM tradefair which starts at the weekend, and she/he/it was talking about the _____________, and how successful it's been for them...etc...then she/he/it said that Lucasfilm will be announcing the title of Episode 3 early next week, and they were rushing to reprint some artwork with the new title to take to MIP.

She/he/it said the title had been 'Rise of the Empire', but George Lucas recently changed his mind, and it will now be titled 'The Creeping Fear'. She/he/it said this refers to a hooded Death type character who wipes out the Jedi.

If you do use this, can you be sure to leave out ___________ ___'s name...(I wouldn't want he/her/it to get into trouble!)

Thanks Harry,

Call me Gibby Bunt

Harry Knowles:

THE CREEPING FEAR... it sounds like a serial chapter title... it has a retrofunk to it and like both the previous names it would be sure to drive sheep screaming mad about how Lucas is insane and how Fincher should be directing the final part... but... THE CREEPING FEAR is the thing that's gonna bite Anakin on the ass and complete his transformation. THE CREEPING FEAR is what is going to be wiping out the Jedi, making the few survivors genuinely feeling like lucky bastards. This could all be bullshit, but we'll see soon enough if the rest of the email is correct... personally I do have a skeptical side... after all, THE PHANTOM MENACE was unleashed in September... and ATTACK OF THE CLONES was an August thing, almost a full month earlier... this would be quite a bit earlier than expected... Let's see if THE CREEPING FEAR turns out to be more than just geeks' feelings towards the 3rd and final prequel.

[Justin]

I don't buy it, I agree with TM worst title ever. No one has ever scooped a title why would this be any different.

[darthpsychotic]

Since AICN is a bitch to get to, the whole article was quoted.
Also changed the thread title.

The Creeping Fear is pretty cool,if true.

Over at the theforce.net boards somone called it last summer (2003):
http://boards.theforce.net/Episode_III_ ... rs_Allowed)/b10331/11873990/?96

[Google]

fatboy,

actually, thecreepingfear.com is reg'd. Today actually. I went to go squat on it and it was already gone. I posted the goddady info in the ep-x thread.

This title is getting the same response as AOTC did, so more than likely it's the real thing. Per Murphy's Law of course.

[darthpsychotic]

When I checked earlier it was available.
For those who don't want to head over there, I got the whois from Goddaddy also.

Registrant:
Jorge Barboza
Moravia
Moravia n/a
Costa Rica

Registered through: GoDaddy.com (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: THECREEPINGFEAR.COM
Created on: 24-Mar-04
Expires on: 24-Mar-05
Last Updated on: 24-Mar-04

Administrative Contact:
Barboza, Jorge vsurfer@e-garfield.com
Moravia
Moravia n/a
Costa Rica
2223445
Technical Contact:
Barboza, Jorge vsurfer@e-garfield.com
Moravia
Moravia n/a
Costa Rica
2223445

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.MULTINETCR.COM
NS2.MULTINETCR.COM

On a side note, nice looking registrar ho's are being featured on the respective registrar frontpage.

http://www.netsol.com


http://www.godaddy.com

[Ziggy]

As long as episode 3 still has spaceships, aliens, new worlds, and lazerswords, the title doesn't bother me at all.

Of course, AICN is not the bation of journalistic integrety. They were the first to report General Grievous, but then again AICN was sure episode 1 was going to be called Balance of the Force, not to mention their 90% fuzzy footage report.



Long story short, it's either the real title or it isn't. Either way i'll watch it.

[SI]

Star Wars Episode III: The Creeping Fear

Reminds me of Metallica's Creeping Death.

[Vanda]

While I don't believe that anyone can scoop the title before the OS posts it, I do think this is a pretty awesome title. Very much in line with Lucas' previous titles and plot relevant. It's a thousand times better than Rise of the Empire or Revenge of the Sith anyway.

Most likely fake, but I wouldn't be upset to be wrong.

[SI]

yeah I agree, I don't have a problem with this particular title.

However, no other title has been leaked and I don't think that trend will change here.

btw, nice to see ya round.

[Ternian]

I like it because it isn't fucking Rise of the Fucking Empire.

[SI]

I started a thread at the JC some time ago about the thought process involved in correctly picking the EPIII title. It was locked due to massive amounts of logic and intelligent posting.

[pjvader]

Since AICN is a bitch to get to, the whole article was quoted.
Also changed the thread title.

thanks darth! at the time i wrote it i too couldnt acsess AICN!
they know how to get there hits in! :wink:
I think the reactions to the titles show the age of the readers/viewers and there attitude to film,(not the people here just the public in general!) most of the naysayers are teenagers or people who dont know anything about the old serials, as lucas set out to do a flash gordon movie in the begining he is still using the titles he probably would have used if he did flash! i like them,(though AOTC could have been a bit more of a serialised title!)
as tern said anything but rise of the empire!
i can see them throwing this out as a curve ball and if it was lucas's title he will change it again, i honestly think only george, rick and a few choice others know the "REAL" title if u remember back 2 AOTC the 1st time ewan heard the title was when a journo told him whilst he was attending a premiere! and he was a star in the damn movie!

[Vanda]

i honestly think only george, rick and a few choice others know the "REAL" title if u remember back 2 AOTC the 1st time ewan heard the title was when a journo told him whilst he was attending a premiere! and he was a star in the damn movie!

Very true - which is one of the reasons why Pablo "debunking" this rumor doesn't make sense. Perhaps he hadn't heard the rumors about this title, and since he most likely isn't in on the title picking process the question of "The Creeping Fear?" didn't mean anything to him. Hence the comical answer.

Don't get me wrong, I still don't believe this is for real, but I don't think Pablo knows one way or the other right now UNLESS this report is true and the OS will be posting it within the week. Then of course Pablo would know since he'd be doing the posting of it. :p

btw, nice to see ya round.

Thanks! Good to be around. Schoolwork that once overwhelmed me is now finally dying down... it's good being a second semester senior.

51 days till graduation - I'm in the home stretch!

[SI]

yeah there's no way even Pablo would know the title yet. He's just messin' around as his post in Q&A suggests.

[fishi]

I don't think so.

[Hade]

TF.N thinks this is fake.

http://www.theforce.net/episode3/index.shtml#23500

EP3: Title Rumor Twist - UPDATED!!

Thu, Mar 25, 04 08:32:38 AM EST

In response to the title rumor story from AICN, Chuck emailed us about a connection to a 1973 film starring two of our favorite Star Wars baddies, Moff Tarkin and Count Dooku. The Creeping Flesh stars Christopher Lee and Peter Cushing as James and Emmanuel Hildern. Has George been watching old horror flicks again?

UPDATE - John Meins sent this in:
Just thought I’d let you know that a band called FiLo Radio release a new single, the Creeping Fear and are playing a gig next Thursday – April Fools day!!!! See link at BBC Online.

Looks like someone may have been playing a publicity scam on AICN

[Insert Username]

Pretty sure MIPCOM is happening right now or is about to happen shortly in France.

As for this title, I don't mind it (assunming it's true, which I doubt).

[Vanda]

it doesnt work it should be rise of the empire

That's absolutely the worst title out there right now. Way too bland, and redundant, seeing as there's already a movie with "empire" in it.

[SI]

no matter what the title is, it will be initially condemned, then given time, will be universally adored.

fans are soooooooooo fucken predictable.

[Google]

me tarzan, you jane. sentences good.

lollers!!!!

[SI]

This title race is getting beyond a joke. :x

Chris Murray - editor of EMPIRE Magazine in Oz - is on radio MMM here in Sydney and is claiming he knows the title to EPIII. He's about to reveal it shortly so tune into FM104.9 now.

The thing is I like this guy and he is pretty cluey about movies and is a moviedork thru and thru. However, he is about to get hounded by phone calls from SW listeners calling bullshit.

As soon as he "reveals" his info I'll post it here. At first I thought he was going to latch onto internet scuttlebutt and say "The Creeping Fear", but he says this info is direct from some marketing meeting with GL.

Tern, you near a radio at the mo'?

EDIT: ***The Creeping Fear***

These aren't the droids we're looking for. Move along... :x :x :x

[SI]

yeah it was.

It's shit like this that starts other shit. The Sydney paper will probably run this story tomorrow and fuel even more rumous now... :x

[Vanda]

Hahahaha - good ol' Pablo playing around with the fans. :p

[SI]

It only confirms that a lot of SW fans are fucked in the head gullible.

[Zidious]

Here's the image:

[Vanda]

Actually, if it had been true, it would have been a brilliant title... possibly the best of the six. I don't see why people don't see that, but ah well. It doesn't matter anyway.

[Forcechoke]

Actually, if it had been true, it would have been a brilliant title... possibly the best of the six. I don't see why people don't see that, but ah well. It doesn't matter anyway.

Vanda's right.

It fits damn it, and the fact so many people hate it is proof of that.

But it will be what it will be and hopefully it will be something just as crazy. I mean who the hell names their first sequel "The Empire Strikes Back" ?

Rocketships, lasers and silliness, folks.

[Forcechoke]

Anakin's turn, man.

Nah, seriously, I don't know. It just sounds like a SW title. Which is why the hoax went so far as it did, I guess.

[BOBAFETISH]

It does sound similar to something GL would do, but the titles realy end up being more staightforward than that.

Phantom Menace- Hidden Palp's is evil incarnate, but hiding
Attack Of the Clones--Some clones attack
A New Hope-- Luke arrives on the scene
Empire Strikes Back- The..umm Empire strikes Back
Return of the Jedi- Luke becomes first new Jedi in a while(also, this could also describe Vader's redemtion, but considering all the Jedi were dead or hidden I think he meant Luke)


See what I'm saying? The titles have all decribed a major plot point of the film. The Creeping Fear doesn't quite jibe.

Rise of the Empire - the other long rumored but unconfirmed title actually would fit in, but there's a limitless number of titles that would.

I'd like : Episode III: The Jedi Purge

[BOBAFETISH]

I never looked at it that way...I took it as hidden or unseen. You could be right, though,Monster. could be a nod to the ghostly look of the holograms..

[Forcechoke]

(Whoa, it's TC! How's life and le wife?)

There's not a formula, it's not E=mc+title squared.

It's just some phrase that GL likes and thinks sounds groovy.

[BOBAFETISH]

No, it's not a formula, but it would be starnge to have 5 titles describing plot and one just being some ambiguous description of a feeling...

[pjvader]

how about "revenge of the jedi" anakin gets his revenge from being taken from his mother and revenges his dispute with the jedis by killing them!
fear would have been a great title, so many great images the title conjures up! oh well we live in hope, jar jars big day out we be upon us soon!

[Vanda]

how exactly does "The Creeping Fear" fit?

Well, since you asked...

The titles have all decribed a major plot point of the film. The Creeping Fear doesn't quite jibe.

(This post is gonna be irrelevant seeing as The Creeping Fear is not the title, but oh well)

I think everyone is missing just how perfect "The Creeping Fear" would be. It's an extremely plot relevant title. Think about the titles so far (I don't entirely agree with your title assessments, BF).

The Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones, A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi. Except for Return of the Jedi, all of the titles refer to the Empire. The Phantom Menace refers to Sidious and his plans to take over the Republic and make into his own Galactic Empire. Attack of the Clones has a deeper meaning than simply what happened on Geonosis: the introduction of the clones is quite literally an attack on the peace of the Galaxy. The Clone Wars rage for 3 years, and then Palpatine uses them as puppets to cement his place at the top of the Empire. A New Hope refers to the Rebellion's new hope to defeat the Empire. The Empire Strikes Back is obvious. So we've got Eps 1, 2, 4, and 5 that refer to the Empire and it's rise and fall.

Episode 6, Return of the Jedi, deals with the return to glory of the saga's star (yes, it could also refer to the return of the order due to Luke, but since the saga is Anakin's story it definitely refers mainly to Anakin). It is only fitting that the title of Episode 3 refer to the fall from glory of the saga's star. The Creeping Fear does that.

Yoda, in TPM: Fear is the path to the dark side.

Through the entire prequels Anakin's being fearful. Afraid for his mother, for Padme, for his status as a Jedi and of his master's "jealousy." This fear has quite literally been creeping up on him; slowly pushing him and degrading his good self. In Episode III, it finally overtakes him, and he falls to the dark side.

I think "The Creeping Fear" is a brilliant sum of Anakin's character in the entire prequel trilogy, and I think that's important for the title pattern that currently exists. That's why I don't think "Rise of the Empire" has any chance of being the title (nevermind the fact that the word "Empire" has already been used in a title and George likes to refer to them as one word - (also the reason why "Fall of the Jedi" is out)). ROTE has nothing to do with Anakin's fall, and seeing as that IS the centerpiece of this movie, it would be a great injustice to deny it the title.

Anyways, like I said, this is moot as it won't be the title. But it's still damn cool. Certainly THE BEST title a fan ever came up with.

[BOBAFETISH]

Vanda, fear does play an important role in the plot, but it doesn't decribe a plot point, really. If the called it "Episode 3: The Creeping Fear Overcomes", then it would jibe with the other titles...

[BOBAFETISH]

Actually, ANH works the same way you were decribing. Never mind what I just said.

[Vanda]

Actually, ANH works the same way you were decribing.

True. As does The Phantom Menace. Neither refer to events that actually happened on screen.

And for that matter, if you take Attack of the Clones for it's more saga relevant meaning (that of an attack on the peace of the galaxy), AOTC is another title in which it does not describe a particular event of the movie.

[SI]

I like The Creeping Fear as a movie title, and it would make for a killer EPIII title, but it just ain't gonna happen unfortunately.

It would have made for a good EPI title, but TPM is better.

[Vanda]

It would have made for a good EPI title, but TPM is better.

Yeah, good call. I wouldn't have been upset with that back in '98. But TPM is definitely better.

And it still would rock the Ep III house as a title. But alas.

[Vanda]

Why do you keep checking this thread if you don't give a shit about the title?

[Vanda]

Blah blah blah. If you think it's contrived then you need to be reading my explanation carefully more than anyone. Let me guess: you think Rise of the Empire is the perfect title, right? No? Fall of the Jedi? Both awful AWFUL titles that alot of fans that don't understand the saga want. This title actually MAKES SENSE.

I don't really care whether you (or anyone) agree or disagree. I don't really care whether you think I keep harping on it or not. Notice that I don't "rub myself all over it" in other threads, only this one - which happens to be the thread to talk about this title. Also notice that I didn't explain myself until I was asked to. And finally, remember that if you don't like me or what I'm saying, then just skip the hell over my posts.

[Vanda]

Ah... well then what we have here is a failure to communicate. :P

To me it seemed as if the original question was you giving ME attitude. I just responded to it.

Ah the joys of emotionless message boards.

[SI]

I have a bad feeling about this...

[SI]

[Hade]

I like The Creeping Fear as a movie title, and it would make for a killer EPIII title, but it just ain't gonna happen unfortunately.

What we need is a new set of words that convey the same thing.

Yeah, good call. I wouldn't have been upset with that back in '98. But TPM is definitely better.

And it still would rock the Ep III house as a title. But alas.

I still wish Episode I referred to Anakin's arrival into all of this. Episodes I, III and VI should all refer to Anakin primarily.

To me, Episode IV refers to his children.

Luke as the redeemer and Leia as the Empire's nemesis.

Episodes II and V refer to the Sith. Their strategy and rising strength in II with V being their continued power displayed through their military dictatorship (Empire).

[SI]

I know a lot of people loathe this title, but Revenge of the Sith still brings a smile to my dial. I would be happy if this was the title. Other generic titles eg. Fall of the Republic, Fall of the Jedi etc don't do anything for me.

[BOBAFETISH]

Star Wars Episode III: Rebellion



That's fucking cool. Everybody'd expecting the title to reflect the empire...but with Mothma and Bail, this movie is also about the birth of the Rebellion.

[Hade]

But the Empire hasn't even been created yet.

We'd have to have the Empire first.

Episode III will give us just the seeds of the rebellion.

We're never going to get to see it form into the full-fledged Alliance.

[BOBAFETISH]

That's why I didn't propose the title "Alliance", asswipe. Just because it hasn't been declared an Empire doesn't mean people can't rebel against it. Palpy has held his power longer than promised, so I'm sure some are against that.

Hell, they are rebelling against it in TPM without knowing it.


Edit: Actually, Seeds of Rebellion would be a pretty cool title as well. I retract the asswipe comment.

[Zidious]

EP III covers the part of the classic hero myth story where the hero faces tests or temptations (Hercules and his twelve labors, Oedipus with the riddle of the Sphinx, Jesus with Satan, etc.).

If George focuses on that, maybe we'll get something like Lure of the Sith, or something more imaginative than that.