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Wouldn't have turned them off necessarily but there are differences in reality, CG Imaging and the tech level of what a game processor can deliver - Maybe I'm stretching here, but he is a sharp guy, If he is catering to that demographic - why not give 'em eye candy in the form that they are use to

The problem isn't a monitary thing (Although in the midst of reading the 'Making of' book) Rinzler does refer to the Budget (Their sticking to)alot, He also has the talent in the animators/artists Etc. - so it can't be that?

It does seem that he's left an awful lot to fit into this last picture (As far as what he's directing) but that doesn't/shouldn't have any bearing on the particular rendering of certain characters


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Even Lucas has to stick with a budget. Even he has to eat, sleep and take a shit once in awhile.

Occasionally, he has to make choices. Like using CGI to duplicate the clone troopers instead of doing multiple takes using T.Morrison. There are things he has to consider, like time, budget, deadlines, Morrison's schedule, etc.

And he is trying to create the best thing he can even if it means having to save money and time here and there in order to create the best effects he can.


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The film made its money back in several days - there was no doubt ever that it would do this. Money should never have been an excuse for less than flawless effects.


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Money isn't an excuse, but scheduling is.

Keep in mind this film has 2100 effects shots. Now, understand that not all animators and digital compositors are of the same skill level. Add that each number of shots have dealines because this movie has a set release date. Now lets do some rationalization.

When GL views a shot to be ok'd, he only has so much time to fine tune it. He can tweak the performance a bit, maybe re-align certain things, but can't scrap it and go back to point A. It doesn't work like that. There is a noticeable difference in quality in different shots simply because some animators have more talent, are older and have more experience than others.

If you remember, Yoda could either look perfect in AOTC or very CG. This is because you have different people lending their interpretation and acting. For Ep. III George took the best guys from Episode II and put them on Yoda to make him look almost seamless and you have a great jump of consistency between AOTC and ROTS.

This film doesn't have an infinite amount of time to be polished, if it did you would have much closer to perfect effects.


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Flawless effects?

Now this argument is just getting silly. Lucas has always been a tight-ass with his money. That's, in part, how he got so much. That's how he built ILM, his own little industry that's allowed him to be independent from Hollywood. He's the same now as he's always been about money.

Moreso that the money is the time. Sure every shot could be perfect, but even with a three year schedule some shit just has to get rushed. That's why it's usually the smaller things the fans gripe about (Anakin riding on a potato-thing, Clones heads, etc.). There just isn't enough time.

And flawless is impossible, everything can always be better, every shot could look nicer. Plus, Lucas has always had a "it's good enough attitude."

EDIT: What CoGro said.


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I agree with raptor10001 - Fully-Aware that I'm Nit-picking on one scene ('tis a sicness) IMO the sequence of the Attack on Kashyyyk - the rendering (And general movements) of the BARQ troops (Camoflauged Biker Scouts) specifically, is done poorly. For the level I expect the animators working for Lucas to be at, I'm disappointed with the consistency of quality in that CGI sequence

Cody and the rest of the Clones for the most part are fine

CoGro - A shame that a greater amount of time was not alotted for, to polish the CGI across the board (Which is why I think it must have been something else?)

Like Dogg Thang stated - 'Looking at people (characters) who I am painfully aware are CG, it takes me out of the movie', It's like a little snap that breaks your focus on the film, I do give a crap

Let me nit-pick somemore - those BARQ's are main elements in that sequence and they just don't cut it - not for ILM - the Wookies were multiplied actors, lots of other CGI elements that look fine

There was plenty of CGI that I found visually stunning - I didn't mind the Boga at all, going into my first viewing I did have reservations about this jedi lizard-thing that Obi-Wan alledgedly was going to ride - But not once
have I even (Now in my 4th viewing - 1x Digital + the Bootleg workprint 1x) thought twice about the quality of that character

I'm impressed with Gen. Grievous (Although his voice sounded better LIVE at C3 - Matt Wood's program!)


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