I havent been so excited since back in the ROTS days... man that felt like a lifetime ago!

Began foaming at the mouth when i saw these pics! MF!!!

Anyone get this feeling that the movie will actually be good like OT-era good?? With JJ Abrams, the Force is.

I am TOTALLY loving this. With JJ Abrams and Lawrence Kasdan steering this, Im mega excited. These images are probably the best thing to be leaked. Everyone seemed to be a little anti-SW.

That's hilarious.
I also noticed that makingstarwars hasn't bothered with these pics. As if to say "we want it first or we don't want it."

let me first preface that I do like Devin and his writing style. I have followed his insight in cinema for a few years now. HE has great articles and Alamo Draft House/Badassdigest really are a great.

that being said, I find it incredibly ironic that just days ago he didn't post about RDJ/CAP3 even though he had it cause he could confirm and said he was never going to hold a scoop again...

Then this and then said the actor playing the villain which will "blow us away" but no info...

Welp, that got me back here after 9 years.

I personally like Devin---love him or hate him, he's honest; up until his recent "Star Wars conversion" (brought about largely from seeing these and other pics), he would just bluntly say that he's running Star Wars stories because they get a bunch of hits and "keep the lights on".

Give me that kind of candor any day over boot-licking sites like JediNews.CO.uK or TFN, who are both lodged way up LFL's ass, not saying or doing anything risky (or interesting) in order to preserve their table scrap access.

That being said, Treadwell perfectly nailed it a few posts back, and Devin or whoever has no right to whine about everybody else having access to what are basically ill-gotten gains in the first place.

As it was over a decade ago, it takes DP/MF.com to cut through all the bullshit ego games of the stupid SW spoiler scene.

Totally wild idea and feel free to shoot me down & slightly out of context with the way the discussion is headed at this peasant moment in time on this post...

After looking at the "Grave Robber & Vader" images - I cant help thinking what if they got some of Vader's tissue leftovers & cloned him... Abrams likes his little surprises and there's nothing stopping him not announcing that Hayden Christensen is part of the cast (sort of in the way Sean Connery was in Robin Hood - Prince Of Thieves).

Just a crazy thought I know but wanted to throw it out there.

here here

That is why this is the site. I will look at others hoping for something different from a different perspective, might even post stupid stuff, but this is the real deal when talking SW.

Great post, Treadwell

What if they're discarded concepts?

Certainly possible.

However, we've seen the At-At feet in Abu Dhabi - makes sense now that they were side-on poking from under a marquee.
We've seen the falcon hangar set.

We've seen the beast of burden with the piggy nose. We've seen some of the other desert sets.

We know about activity on Skellig Michael and in the Forest of Dean, which ties in with some of this stuff visually too. We've seen a cybernetic hand (Chewie? Montross? The grave-robber?).

We know at the very least that something that corresponds with a lot of this stuff has most likely been shot.
Maybe none of it will make the final cut.

Here's where the fun begins, I guess...

Imageshack account seems to be down. Anyone have a mirror / zip of the COMPLETE concept art leak? I've seen many blogs around with the images, but not all the images. Shoulda saved it when I had the chance!

Must admit - I hate any stories where "clones" inherit the source's memories and experiences, essentially becoming the original "reborn".
Likeness, mannerisms, abilities, behavior being passed on - yes, that all makes sense. But actually becoming the same person in a literal sense? That's just dumb.

I mean, what if you clone someone who is still living? Does that person's consciousness somehow split into two?

Boba was an "unaltered" clone of Jango, but he didn't believe he was Jango. Otherwise he'd have spent the entire saga curled up in a ball trying to understand why he could remember two different and completely conflicting eighth birthday celebrations. Why he could remember his 21st birthday, but wasn't even that old yet. And so on... It just doesn't work that way, even in fiction.

Holy hell I haven't been here in years, but something tells me that I'm going to be back devouring spoilers like I was for ROTS. Unbelievably cool pictures!

Wow, how the hell did you get your hands on this??

SS (posting from year 1998)...?

EDIT: Hah - cool filter! ^^^ Not seen that one before...

Regarding the grave Robber being a clone ... i think it could be feasible that the Empire/Adam Driver character tried to clone Anakin and failed (sort of) hence the cybernetics. The Ani-clone Skywalker could be Strong with the Force and conflicted from the expectation/knowledge of his old self.

The character in general could be neither good or bad and something of a pawn between the two factions.

The GR looks to be a great character in the making.

Understandably, speculation about the cyborg revolves around his gender. But, what if the character has been changed to a female role? That would leave the window open for other possibilities like a mechanical Ventress, dark Ahsoka, or even "Kira's" evil twin?

I feel very strongly that the Skywalker family should be at the center of the main conflict. Whoever the main bad guy is, the motivation should be personal as well as ideological/political. The drama of the OT was driven by the relationship between Vader and Luke, and Palpatine's manipulation of both.

There are times when I play possible plot scenarios in my head and all I think about is how extraneous the idea of a ST still feels to me. I love everything I'm seeing and hearing in terms of style and tone, but I'm still having a tough time coming to grips with the fact that the resolution of Anakin's journey and the iconic imagery of ROTJ's finale is not the epic conclusion of the Skywalker saga, as we'd been led to believe.

Someone here talked about the possibility of Anakin showing up as a Force ghost and I don't actually think that's a bad idea: it makes a ton of sense. Vader may have destroyed the Emperor, but his work as the chosen one may not yet be done. Now that he's "one with the Force" he might have far more work left to do to restore balance, and maybe the antagonist of the ST is trying to upset that balance. That said, I shudder at the thought of Hayden Christensen playing any sort of role in the new movies and I'm sure KK and JJ are working to distance themselves from the PT as much as possible anyway.

The last images of ROTJ showed Luke with his Jedi family so why wouldn't we see Anakin, Yoda and Obi-wan?

Too many weird cyborg things going on in this artwork. I do like the feel of some of it, though. Much more Star Warsy than the prequels. Heck, some of this makes my imagination run wild thinking about what could have been.

On the Vader/Christiansen thing:

If they (JJ/Kasdan) have not scrapped Lucas' treatments then I find it hard to believe the best Lucas could do was clone Vader. I don't think he'd rehash a Skywalker falling to the dark side again (that's like the another Death Star/ROTJ Shot because he was burnt out). Lucas' best gift is his storytelling followed by his technical ability to hit the beats in the editing room with movement and sound/music (Though he delegates that to the best of the best - Burt & Williams).

However, what might come to pass is Luke did not willingly turn, but might be driven insane from 10 years of isolation/shock treatments/cloning torture or something.

If this ends up being the case, you might see Ahsoka (possibly Nyong'o character) the actual "other" coming from the other side of the galaxy (per Gary Kurtz statements on the 9 film outlines) and not Leia (another misread prophecy as to how things unfold). This would be cool because you had the son redeeming/saving the father in ROTJ and now the father saving the son through his old student/padawan.

Also, this opens up the possibility of Anakin appearing too Ahsoka so Christensen would be needed.

The big BUT in all this is maybe we need not worry about Christensen this time because the real big hindrance to the prequels was Lucas' inability to get the best out of his actors (his worst filmmaking trait, and what separates him from Spielberg, Coppola, etc). Lucas is a storyteller/technical guy not an actor's director.

Case in point: Hamill’s and everyone else's best sold performances were in Empire (Kirshner). Lucas was supposedly ever present on set in Jedi which might have strained Marquand's attempts.

So Maybe Christensen will shine this time.

Also, I would be up for actually seeing a Anakin vs. Sideous battle ala Yoda/Sideous through a Moraband mystical dreamlike sequence as in the S6 Yoda Clone Wars arc (I think these episodes were the testing ground for the mystical/philosophical stuff to come).

So short story long, maybe Christiansen will be a good thing.

Yeah, I think Christensen is underrated, and I blame a lot his performance on Lucas' direction and script than any lack of ability by the actor himself. Hell, even Ewan, Liam and Natalie didn't exactly come off as stellar in the PT, and they are all quite accomplished actors. I think if you gave Christensen some good lines and solid direction he'd surprise everyone. I'd be quite shocked if he isn't in Episode 7 in some capacity.

If Luke really is, according to rumour, captured and undergoing duress, having Anakin appear to encourage him to keep strong would be pretty awesome.

Going from all that has happened from Episode 4 onwards, once Obi-Wan was killed, the force ghost thing has been consistent throughout Empire & Jedi...personally I don't think this will be dropped for Episode 7. We will see force ghosts... I'm sure of that.

However, how they go about it will be interesting as the old Obi-Wan cant possibly make an appearance (unless they go down the Terminator Salvation route and make him cgi...which is a hell of a call to make) the only two options left are Yoda & Anakin.

Yoda is easy as he would be cgi...that only leaves Christensen to fill the role...the only other option is to diminish their powers (like in the EU novels) where they can no longer appear but only communicate through voice.

As much as I want to see some prequel elements woven into the sequels I doubt they would bring back Hayden if only to please OT fans by amputating the PT.

Daisy has a very Ania Solo feel to her. These pics are incredible I knew MF would be back at it, great to see forums pick up and new members joining.

I don't think the ship looks too small.

Even if it did, this is obviously the same MF, and meant to appear in the background of whatever this scene is (like they should have done in ROTJ, instead of that bad matte painting in the Rebel Cruiser hangar).

My thinking is that it is the Falcon, with minor structural tweaks including the replacement main sensor antenna and the 'pointed' front loading mandibles.

If it was a different stock light freighter then it would make no aesthetic sense to have it look identical - it would confuse the viewer? It would at the very least have received a markedly different paint-scheme, progressing to significant hull changes to the point it may as well be designed from scratch as an entirely new vehicle.

However ... if it was a decoy to lure an enemy into pursuit, or a flying bomb, then it does make more sense.

Hello to the group, BTW!
Been following MF.com for years since its earliest prequel scoops.

We have seen approximately 1/3 of the entire ship. We have no idea what the ship looks like.

Wow. First time I've logged in to this site in a looooong time. I'm surprised my user name and password still work. I used to lurk and sometimes post here and be pretty active on theforce.net forums at lot back when ROTS was filmed and released.

Days upon days watching the Episode 3 webcam in the concept art and costume making rooms.

Thanks for the concept art. I checked them out about a week ago after being redirected here from starwars7news.com. Nice to know what kind of "tone" the film might have.

To be honest I don't think there will be two ships, for the same reasons posted above. It's just odd the whole Carousel thing - having two ships, one full size for main set shoots and one 3/4 size for location shooting makes sense, it's just the two extensions to the mandibles that make no sense when you're laying one outline over the other in the diagram above - surely you'd notice, or they serve a specific purpose for the 3/4 size ship - perhaps it's new functionality that we've yet to see on the Falcon that's specific to this scene.

I did read an interview that when they came to recreate the Falcon cockpit for EP VII they discovered that the cockpit from Star Wars was slightly smaller than the cockpit of ESB, so they built it in between both sizes.