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Post Posted: March 5th 2018 10:51 pm
 
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The "final" episodes are available on the Disney XD site. As expected, they're compelling to the very end.

The prologue makes my mind race with possible stories. I don't look forward to Bandersnatch copying and pasting a certain theory for the next several seasons. But, it's a small price to pay. Especially, if I get to hear Hamill voicing Skywalker in his prime.

It's funny how...
Filoni and company choose the "all of the above" approach to preserving continuity. If there are no Jedi during the OT, you can either a) kill-off your Jedi character, b) have your Force-wielder disavow the Jedi Order, or c) come-up with a neat trick. They went "a)" with Kanan, kept "b)" with Ahoska (after faking "a)"), and pulled a "c)" with Ezra. I didn't a see either the "b" or "c)" coming - well done.

Hopefully, Ezra will meet a worthy end when his time does come. I can't image that his character would travel space and time only to get sabered by Han and Leia's psycho kid. (Wait, what if Bandy's right? :wow: )

Yes, Disney - you have my money for your streaming service if that's where I need to go next.


Post Posted: March 6th 2018 7:11 am
 
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Looking forward to watching these episodes later today. Of course, my Ezra theory could be way off base. :o

Here's the post-screening Q&A. I haven't watched it yet:


Post Posted: March 6th 2018 11:31 am
 
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Meh. Very anti-climactic. Lots of shooting and a lack of genuine resolution. The voice-over coda was strange, and felt tacked on. But I guess we have been set up for a post-ROJ show now.

... and Yes. Bander IS right! ;-)


Post Posted: March 6th 2018 11:57 am
 
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Wonderful conclusion! All of it!

That coda gave me a lump in my throat.

And how about Mc-fucking-Diarmid, ladies and gentlemen?! :chewbacca:


Post Posted: March 6th 2018 1:09 pm
 

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Circa 30 mins into that Q&A Filoni nails it, and I think, it’s what’s missing from the new films. I didn’t mind the last episode of Rebels, but I agree that it left a lot unresolved (for me anyway). I think it would have been a stronger resolution if the protagonists had a similar fate to those from Rogue One.


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which bander theory?


Post Posted: March 6th 2018 3:04 pm
 
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Ezra is Snoke.

It's entirely plausible given how open-ended the story is. Something horrible would have to happen to Ezra given how he was able to resist the darkness of Palpatine's seduction.


Post Posted: March 6th 2018 4:31 pm
 
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My theory is that Thrawn will end up being the first Supreme Commander of the First Order.


Post Posted: March 6th 2018 5:04 pm
 
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I thought it was a really good episode, but a fairly anti-climactic series finale.

Lots of pew pew gunfighting and that got tired. I felt like I was watching the same scene for 1.5 hours with character moments sprinkled in between. I would have liked for the mission to feel secondary to those character beats. One of my favourite details was that they have now officially retconned Rex to be this guy at the battle of Endor.

The Emperor/Ezra scene was interesting enough, with a typically great performance from Ian, but what was the point of it? What was the Emperor's plan there? Was it to take Ezra out of the picture? And how do these portals work exactly? In the previous episode they only really seemed accessible in this netherworld of the Force but here it was just a one-off doorway, coded specifically to be a window into Ezra's past. How did they excavate the portal from the temple ruins? That they did feels like a cheapening of Ezra's victory from the previous episode. And isn't Ezra's rejection of Palpatine's offer to rejoin his family the EXACT same character moment he had in the last episode? He proved he could let go of the past when he let Kanan die, so why did he have to go through the same trial again, one episode later?

It also felt strange that Thrawn was part of this sequence, at least in bringing Ezra to the Emperor, since Thrawn represents the grounded militaristic and very non-spiritual aspect to the Empire. We had a far better intermediary in the last episode with the priest-like servant to Palpatine. Just some odd choices here.

I love so much about Thrawn in this series but let's face it: he never had a meaningful victory and that really made him feel more like a typical, albeit more clever, moustache-twirling antagonist. Are we meant to believe that both he and Ezra survived travelling through hyperspace with the windows blown out of the Star Destroyer bridge? Instead of getting wrapped up in the climax for these two characters, that's what I was thinking about.

Regarding the voiceover, I agree it felt awkward and out of place for the series. Definitely would have been better to show rather than tell. It felt like a strange Lord of the Rings-style epilogue.


Post Posted: March 6th 2018 6:28 pm
 
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Filoni explained Palpatine's involvement as using Ezra to get a hook into the world between worlds. Palpatine himself couldn't enter but only peer into the void.


Post Posted: March 6th 2018 6:50 pm
 
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Complaining about too much war in Star Wars. :roll:

How did you guys stand all that laser exchange in TCW?


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That felt like a satisfactory conclusion to the series, but the endings implication are what really did it for me.
Not sure if it was the version I watched, but the quality of the animation in the last few scenes, seemed almost photorealistic.


Post Posted: March 7th 2018 6:51 am
 
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I thought this was a really cool way to wrap up this particular series, but it didn't feel so much like an ending, but rather a segue.
Jumping to post-
Endor
and setting sights on a new quest to
find Ezra
could very easily lead us into Star Wars: Resistance, or whatever is next.


Post Posted: March 7th 2018 9:44 am
 
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CoGro, I'm pretty much in agreement with you on all you say above.

And yeah. Way too much shooting. War is not just guns, and it is better with battles of the minds and shifting allegiances. Plus we have lightsabers and "magic" to fight with too, so all the guns were just very tedious. ;-)


Post Posted: March 7th 2018 5:42 pm
 
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Great conclusion to the series!

With all Filoni's talk of reading/studying Tolkien I had a feeling he was gonna lead a character towards a Gandalf-like persona and I think Ahsoka was the perfect choice. I don't think she's a Grey Jedi, nor believe they will they go in this direction.

I wonder how long it was after the Battle of Endor that she showed up on Lothal to pick up Sabine - and if Ahsoka has already met Luke and Leia by this point in time?

I will say this, with all the talk of Filoni running Lucasfilm, I rather see him in a Chief Creative Officer position as opposed to the CEO.
KK can keep that position, just let Dave do his thing from the top down - he gets it for what it is - the craft, themes and tones of the franchise.
Making him a manager as well as a creator would hinder him from concentrating on the storytelling.


Post Posted: March 8th 2018 9:35 am
 
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Make Dave Filoni the Kevin Feige of Star Wars. Now.


Post Posted: March 8th 2018 7:21 pm
 
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Looks like it is gonna be Favreau...


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