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CoGro. You are SO RIGHT! We were talking about that this weekend. How on earth can we get such awesome animated stories and such drek on the big screen?
Is it because TV gives you much more time to tell a story?
Less cooks in the kitchen?
Less pressure to create something so basic that the entire world will want to watch?
How can the same story group be doing both with such different results?

Maybe they just need to let Filoni direct the films. But I guess they are keeping him busy with ... what exactly? Star Wars: Resistance?


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The point is that the folks at Disney aren't the ones responsible for content here: it's the people at Lucasfilm.

So, if you didn't like TFA or TLJ or RO, blame Lawrie Kasdan, JJ Abrams, Michael Arndt, Tony Gilroy, Gareth Edwards, Gary Whitta, Rian Johnson, Carrie Beck, Kiri Hart, Pablo Hidalgo, Kathy Kennedy...hell, even blame George Lucas since his fingerprints are apparently all over the story of the ST. He's even the reason a Han Solo movie exists.

Good content comes from good creatives, and clearly Disney/Kathy isn't diluting or polluting what the show runners at Rebels are putting out. What Dave Filoni is doing creatively is striking a chord with the Star Wars fanbase and even though the show doesn't exactly light up the network, Disney let Lucasfilm make the series they wanted and end it on their terms.

This silly narrative that the mouse is somehow responsible for this new Disney-fied version of Star Wars is tired. If you want to blame Disney for anything, blame them for the awful one-sheets they insist on putting out for all of their films.

For the record, I would be all-for a Filoni-led story group, and if Kathy is smart she should give him the job. I think it's clear that he should be the Kevin Feige of the Star Wars universe. Let Kathy be the executive producer and business head, but she isn't the creative engine here. I have never been a big believer in storytelling by committee since creative vision isn't really a democratic process. Not to mention the folks who are part of the story group today aren't really storytellers: they're Star Wars encyclopedias. Kiri Hart had done nothing but work in bit roles at LFL before becoming head of story, same for Carrie Beck and Pablo was the guy who answered fan questions submitted to Star Wars Insider for hell's sake.


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Meh. Very anti-climactic. Lots of shooting and a lack of genuine resolution. The voice-over coda was strange, and felt tacked on. But I guess we have been set up for a post-ROJ show now.

... and Yes. Bander IS right! ;-)


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Wonderful conclusion! All of it!

That coda gave me a lump in my throat.

And how about Mc-fucking-Diarmid, ladies and gentlemen?! :chewbacca:


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Circa 30 mins into that Q&A Filoni nails it, and I think, it’s what’s missing from the new films. I didn’t mind the last episode of Rebels, but I agree that it left a lot unresolved (for me anyway). I think it would have been a stronger resolution if the protagonists had a similar fate to those from Rogue One.


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which bander theory?


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Ezra is Snoke.

It's entirely plausible given how open-ended the story is. Something horrible would have to happen to Ezra given how he was able to resist the darkness of Palpatine's seduction.


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My theory is that Thrawn will end up being the first Supreme Commander of the First Order.


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Filoni explained Palpatine's involvement as using Ezra to get a hook into the world between worlds. Palpatine himself couldn't enter but only peer into the void.


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Complaining about too much war in Star Wars. :roll:

How did you guys stand all that laser exchange in TCW?


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That felt like a satisfactory conclusion to the series, but the endings implication are what really did it for me.
Not sure if it was the version I watched, but the quality of the animation in the last few scenes, seemed almost photorealistic.


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CoGro, I'm pretty much in agreement with you on all you say above.

And yeah. Way too much shooting. War is not just guns, and it is better with battles of the minds and shifting allegiances. Plus we have lightsabers and "magic" to fight with too, so all the guns were just very tedious. ;-)


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Great conclusion to the series!

With all Filoni's talk of reading/studying Tolkien I had a feeling he was gonna lead a character towards a Gandalf-like persona and I think Ahsoka was the perfect choice. I don't think she's a Grey Jedi, nor believe they will they go in this direction.

I wonder how long it was after the Battle of Endor that she showed up on Lothal to pick up Sabine - and if Ahsoka has already met Luke and Leia by this point in time?

I will say this, with all the talk of Filoni running Lucasfilm, I rather see him in a Chief Creative Officer position as opposed to the CEO.
KK can keep that position, just let Dave do his thing from the top down - he gets it for what it is - the craft, themes and tones of the franchise.
Making him a manager as well as a creator would hinder him from concentrating on the storytelling.


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Make Dave Filoni the Kevin Feige of Star Wars. Now.


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Looks like it is gonna be Favreau...


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